The Scottish Government

the independence and sovereignity of scotland , in a social way , will bring the the right of responsability on their own doings and acts of god.

on the contrary sotish are responsible for all the wrong doings of the imperialist britain , to the extent that the social desobedience is hand by hand to the english.

the enchanted way of living will come back to scotland honoring its heroes martyrs , alexander , robert , william and many others.

no manipulation to the scotish peoples .

with votes peace or whatsoever , independence and sovereignity is the sacred life of all countries . iran , north korea , iraq, scotland , and many others.

Scotland has been at the front for the united kingdom since the union of the crowns and the act of union in more ways than one .
salmond is just using the nationalist people of Scotland as a way of getting that fancy check.

Independance would be a disaster for Scotland and also in the north of Britain gets more percentage in profits than south.

so meny people have been led to believe the salmonk would gain them indepedance? its really just a name that is hidding the gods honest truth of disaster and under a bigots rule.

Ahem.... PMK, before you start assuming im thick, i have been to ireland many times, partly because my family is there. I tell you, the years since its introduction into the EuroZone have made it descend into another boring Euro copycat, which is sad because its such a great country. There traditions are not as praised as they once were and more and more everyday foreign business occupies there business sector.

alexander phillip, true the Scottish populace by the majority rejected such a move. However where were the long marches and protests after the Union settled in and worked its 'magic' so to speak? Did everyone protest about how massive amounts of revenue poured into Scotland? Did everyone protest at how Scottish culture and identity was transported throughout the globe? Did the majority think it wrong the works of Hume and Smith were being read by Students in Australia?

Tell me that wasn't for Scotlands best interests.

Although a member of the SNP I think after taking so long to win an election we should have shown the Scottish people we could run Scotland well and waited to consolidate our position by winning the next election before having a referendum on independence as this is still a step too far for many Scots.

Ellis Sims - the main reasons why the union went through in Scotland was because of vast amounts of money shipped north to sway the vote in the (undemocratic) noble-dominated parliament of the time, the economic incentives offered in the short-term to sure up the Scottish economy following the failure of the Darien colony (partly due to the English crown deciding not to intervene to protect settlers from the Spanish, as had been promised) and the vast armies sitting in Newcastle and on the Antrim Coast in case the parliament said no.
In England’s case there were better reasons for union, a permanently secured northern border allowed expansion previously undreamed of. However, the main reasons for Scotland joining in union with England were coercion and threats – that is why the populace rioted throughout the country and many dozens of petitions were sent to the Scots parliament in an attempt to stop it.
In what way has Ireland thrown away its cultural heritage since leaving the union? It seems to me it is near on the definition of a "cultural powerhouse" with global reach!
Incidentally I find it interesting that so many of the vocal contributors in favour of continuing union make their case from south of the border – where are all the Scottish unionists?

Answer to Ellis Sims 449
You asked why did Scotland/England ditch independence and go for union.
The answer is that the Scottish people did not want it, only the landed gentry in Scotland made the decision (many of them bribed ). Do you honestly believe that such an undemocratic arrangement is something to be proud of?

Ladies and Gents. Lets think back shall we? Why was it in the first place that Scotland/England ditched independence in favour of Union in the first place?

Before the Nationalists rush in saying "oh its different now, it dosen't apply" yadda yadda, think about the reasons properly.

What security is there now in place, what guarentees are there that the future will turn out hunky dorey for independence to thrive culturally, to turn these independent nations into there supposed cutural powerhouses (which indeed is ironic because becoming independent throws away an aspect of that culture). Solving our problems together whatever they are is the soundest course of action.

444. Dave Eastabrook - Largs, Ayrshire

Re: And with the "constitution" of the EU being sneaked through without us having a chance to say "yea" or "nay" in a referendum, increasingly I guess Westminster - and Holyrood - will become irrelevant. We will all be Europeans!?

Couldn't agree more with you Dave but I'm not ready to concede sovereignty
to the Europeans yet!

Another reason - surely ? - why we shouldn't abandon our Britishness just yet.

No Problem Mike(443), so what if the PM is Scottish, no mention on Iraq, nuclear weapons, Act of Settlement, 27% higher wages in England, Mike, but cause union jack Brown is Scottish that make's it alright! next point caller.

Btw britain is not yours or anyone else's country its a union of country's and at the moment your country is taking more from mine than it puts back, so I suppose your understandable happy to keep this unfair undemocratic union going, not sure what Criag Cook (441) agenda is in keeping the union perhaps he "follow" "follows" another party?

independence will come.
devolution ;the first step
more people now in the nation are waking from the unionist lies
trying to make people doubt only proves the unionist own doubt.
when a tunnel twixt England and Europe there be
the land they call Alba
will shortly be free.