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1 | Cameron Leask | | Lack of car parking at Edinburgh Park Station and difficulty of parking at Linlithgow | The lack of any available land at Edinburgh Park station precludes any rail user car park. Discussions are ongoing between Transport Scotland and West Lothian Council regarding car parking at Linlithgow station. |
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3 | Alan Neish | East Ayrshire Council | Framework should more explicitly link West Edinburgh to strategic road and rail network in Scotland. How does the rest of Scotand relate to "Scotland's Gateway"? | The Edinburgh-Glasgow rail proposals (Scottish Government September 2007) clearly link West Edinburgh to the national rail network; links to the national road network are at Newbridge and Hermiston Gate. |
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5 | GC Russell | Renfrewshire Council | No comments | |
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6 | Michael McGlynn | South Lanarkshire Council | No comments | |
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7 | Robert Maund | Scottish Council for National Parks | No comments | |
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8 | Gordon MacCallum | Keppie Planning | Vince Stewart pursuing a quality hotel on Eastfield Road since 1999. Mr Stewart's site will ultimately form part of the operational airport. Mr Stewart acquired an alternative site on Ratho Station link within potential economic development land. Suggest refine the hotel gateway more westward and less south. | Hotel development now seen as integral part of International Business Gateway allocation. |
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9 | Steve Field | West Lothian Council | Welcome the opportunity which future development will present for West Lothian. Wish to see continued dialogue particularly in relation to noise implications arising from airport expansion, and in relation to transport infrastructure. | Continuing dialogue with West Lothian officials on the Steering Group, and Edinburgh Airport Masterplan Steering Group. |
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Support IBG for wider economic advantages it will bring to West Lothian. Hotel development beyond the immediate airport area should consider wider Lothian area as well as City of Edinburgh. M8 link in longer term should not be ruled out. Reference to impacts of a Forth Replacement Crossing could be incorporated in final Framework. | A STAG appraisal of West Edinburgh to inform the Rural West Edinburgh Local Plan Alteration will consider all transport issues and options including link to M8 and implications of Forth Replacement Crossing decision. |
10 | Dave du Feu and AW Scotland | Spokes | Generally welcome report and especially focus on public transport and constrains on road system. Constraints on car parking very important, and rejection of M8 link welcomed. But no mention of further enhancement of cycle network. Cycle route along A8 should be protected and enhanced. SPP17 has key component of accessibility for cyclists. | Assumed SPP17 policy taken as read, but reference to cycle network and development links inserted in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework. |
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11 | John Bury | Glasgow City Council | Welcome recognition of role of AQMAs. Particularly welcome commitment to improve rail links with rest of Scotland. Concern that EARL may have significant adverse impact on balance between Edinburgh and Glasgow Airports. Need commitment not just to GARL but also to Glasgow Crossrail. | Rail proposals outwith West Edinburgh Planning Framework scope. |
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Requirement for quality design has counterpart in Glasgow and Edinburgh / Glasgow collaboration proceeding. | Noted |
Interested in withdrawal of permitted development rights for car parking. Glasgow City Council expressed concern at amount of parking being proposed at Glasgow Airport. Merit in considering case for withdrawing rights at both airports. Response of Scottish Executive sought. | Edinburgh Airport proposal in context of West Edinburgh Planning Framework. Consideration of situation at other airports a more general issue for Scottish Government beyond scope of West Edinburgh Planning Framework. |
12 | Ben Carter | Visit Scotland | Delighted to see Eastfield Road corridor identified for hotel development. Scotland's ambition to increase tourism value by 50% by 2015 depends on additional accommodation. But hotels are also needed in wider Lothians area, not just City of Edinburgh itself. | Hotel development now seen as integral part of International Business Gateway allocation. |
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15 | Martin Dalziel | New Ingliston Ltd | New Ingliston own significant proportion of land between Airport and A8 affected by West Edinburgh Planning Framework. Welcome West Edinburgh Planning Framework and its vision. Due to effect on our land we would wish to participate in public / private partnership to masterplan and thereafter implement proposals. Matters for discusion are set out below. | Noted |
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IBG designation has Gogar Mains Farm Road as eastern boundary. More appropriate is centre line of Gogar Burn. Extra land should be available for complementary and supporting uses to IBG. This land omitted due to protection of Grade A Gogar Castle, and to Roman Fort Scheduled Ancient Monument. | Development of designated IBG land widened in geographic scope, but subject to Historic Scotland requirements. |
Gogar Castle sits in its own grounds and the area nearest New Ingliston land has been granted permission for 5 very modern houses not in keeping with the Castle. Development underway. Setting of Castle already seriously compromised. Master plan should define landscaping buffer. | Development of designated IBG land widened in geographic scope, but subject to Historic Scotland requirements. |
Scheduled Ancient Monument limited in size and underground. Prepared to proceed by a method statement to protect it within a master planned development and environmental statement. | Development of designated IBG land widened in geographic scope, but subject to Historic Scotland requirements. |
The inclusion of the "white areas" in master plan would overcome problem of unviable farmland that would degrade over time | Development of designated IBG land widened in geographic scope, but subject to Historic Scotland requirements. |
Gogar Link Road not accurate with negotiated and legally agreed route in Tram Bill agreed by tie. Vision Map should be altered. | Transport options no longer shown on Vision Map pending a STAG appraisal of West Edinburgh |
To maximise long term contribution that West Edinburgh can make to Scottish economy, M8 link must be planned and safeguarded. | To be included in STAG appraisal of transport options for West Edinburgh |
In order that opportunities are not lost, marketing of West Edinburgh should start on adoption of final West Edinburgh Planning Framework. Services and road infrastructure need to be in place. As a preliminary measure propose roundabout on A8 midway between Gogar Mains Farm Road and Gogar Stone Road to promote earlier delivery of significant economic development. | Transport options now subject to STAG appraisal of West Edinburgh. Governance framework in place to project manage early implementation. |
Eastfield Road should be maintained as a western / alternative access as well as a public transport corridor. It should be aesthetically upgraded to provide a quality access to the area as a whole. | Transport options now subject to STAG appraisal of West Edinburgh. |
16 | David Reid | CILT | Support international business and location important to attract mobile HQ development | Noted |
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Question statement re greater certainty about airport expansion; flexibility needed after recognition of climate change and Stern report | The post-Stern situation recognised and land for second runway now safeguarded but still Green Belt rather than allocated. |
Para 8: Recognition of uncertainty over forecasts welcome but need to review West Edinburgh Planning Framework to reflect likely reduction in passenger forecasts. | West Edinburgh Planning Framework will be reviewed at 4-5 yearly intervals |
Paras 12,15: Support mitigation of adverse transport impacts and greater public transport mode share is of prime strategic importance | Noted |
Para 18: Support proposed action. | Noted |
Para 19: generally support vision but reconsideration or amplification required: frequent review of forecasts required and development plan should not impose requirement for investment ahead of need; support high quality transport interchange but flexibility required for forecasts, road pricing, major rail improvements; support tram link, but rail costly and time penalty and does not serve Airdrie Bathgate scheme; support stations on existing routes with people movers; support Gogar and Ratho links but Gogar junction needs further consideration; agree M8 link should not be supported. | Transport options now subject to STAG appraisal of West Edinburgh. |
17 | Ray Jones | Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland | Welcomes West Edinburgh Planning Framework. Welcomes removal of planning blight from airport expansion. Welcomes relocation to south of A8 subject to funding. Support rejection of M8 link. Remains concerned that tram link may not be extended from Ingliston to Newbridge and this is inconsistent with CEC policy to reduce car parking facilities in this area. Disappointed that rail halt not shown on E&G line in vicinity of Gogar Mains. Other national showgrounds have rail access. Welcomes hotel provision. | Noted. Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
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Concerned that land at Gogar Castle and Lochend Road become landlocked and these should be master planned in final Framework. Upgrading of Freelands Road will be important to access southern temporary car parks and Ratho. Added value could be gained by the Showground accommodating additional P+R to hotels and airport in the vicinity. | Access to land a detailed matter for the West Edinburgh Partnership. Transport options now subject to STAG appraisal of West Edinburgh. |
Vision Map does not exactly follow southern boundary of Golf Driving Range and may give Airport too much land. Note should be taken of Showground feasibility study to provide link to car parks east of Showground north of E&G main line. Issue about eastern expansion of Ratho Station. RHASS welcomes further discussions on developing its residual land north of the A8 as IBG. A further area of land north of Norton House and south of the railway is omitted from the Vision Map but in the feasibility study. | Vision Map corrected. Transport options now subject to STAG appraisal of West Edinburgh. |
18 | Ian Wall | EDI Group Scotland | Strongly support primary thrust of developing core development areas | Noted |
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Oppose international business development; no evidence of commercial demand; Cisco only mobile HQ but downturn in market meant sale to Aegon; inappropriate to sacrifice green belt and undermine investment in core development areas; for exceptions no pre-planning necessary. | Totally misunderstands policy intention of International Business Gateway. Cannot proceed by exemption. A well planned offer has to be available. Does not compete with core development areas. |
Oppose hotel development on Eastfield Road in favour of Edinburgh Park, Hermiston, Ratho Station, Newbridge; tram and rail links will transfer people to Edinburgh hotels; CEC policy after tram open reinforces this. | Hotel development now an integral part of IBG development subject to master plan. |
Any improved road links should be solely for Airport. | Required for IBG as well as Airport. |
If any of above proceeded with it should be through development plan so can be publicly tested in open forum | West Edinburgh Planning Framework has SPP status but policy will be incorporated in development plan. |
Strength of Airport is rural environment and clear demarcation to city; relocation of Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland would reinforce rural setting of Airport. | Not accepted. |
19 | Dr GA Cook | HSE | Two natural gas pipelines running close to or within the northern boundary of the extended airport and a single pipeline alongside the existing Edinburgh to Dalmeny rail line crossing the A8 at Gogar Roundabout. The presence of these pipelines may have an impact on development types at these locations. It is difficult to quantify the effect until planning applications are submitted to CEC. Pipeline operators Scottish Gas Networks or National Grid Transco will be able to identify the routes of these pipelines if required. Otherwise HSE has no comments. | Developers aware of these pipelines |
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20 | Dave Black | | Resident of Kirkliston. Questions why West Edinburgh Planning Framework assumes Edinburgh Airport can be turned into an international airport. Objects totally to proposed development of Edinburgh Airport. | De facto Edinburgh Airport is a successful international Airport |
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21 | Rona Cameron | | Resident of Kirkliston. Reference to paragraph 19, no airport is sustainable. Air transport is fastest growing source of carbon dioxide emissions (Stern). Adverse effects of water vapour released at high altitude. Oxford University Environmental Change Institute estimate that air travel is now 6% of UK carbon footprint and by 2050 could represent 50 to 100% of UK carbon budget. Expanded airport will have immediate environmemtal impact for local residents in terms of increased noise, pollution, road congestion and loss of green space. OUECI Report strongly of the view that UK airport growth due largely to UK residents going abroad on holiday. Economic benefits to inward tourism or business not proven. Over 70% of Edinburgh flights are domestic, and could arguably be made by other means. Flying not socially inclusive, as full fare and budget airlines both have affluent user profiles. | UK Airport Policy is a reserved matter and the UK White Paper forms the basis of planning in West Edinburgh |
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If airport expansion does not go ahead, is EARL really necessary. Just enables wealthy to reach the airport more easily. | Airport will continue to grow and sustainable transport is necessary to mitigate overall transport impacts. EARL now abandoned with new Gogar Station and tram link to Airport. |
West Edinburgh Planning Framework does not take account of proposed housing growth in Kirkliston. Neither tram nor EARL will serve Kirkliston. Local residents will have all environmental impact but no benefits. The only public transport will be bus but road network inadequate to accommodate enhanced service | Tram independent of West Edinburgh Planning Framework and determined by Parliament. Kirkliston growth a result of Edinburgh and Lothian Structure Plan policy. West Edinburgh Planning Framework is not about settlement strategy. |
22 | Sheila Terry | Falkirk Council | Many proposals will have no impact on Falkirk or indirect in providing employment opportunities. Transport proposals will have more impact. Should enhance access from Falkirk to West Edinburgh, but lack of M8 link creates little change from west other than EARL. Airport access and interchange a major bonus to Falkirk. But concerns at overall time or stopping pattern of service and Falkirk Council would like to be kept informed of rail service planning. | Noted |
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23 | MW Fraser | RSPB | RSPB objects to expansion of Edinburgh Airport. Climate change policy and science is counter to expansion. Creation of management zones around the airport designed to discourage birds at variance with strategic objective of Vision of improvement of the water environment and ecological value of West Edinburgh. RSPB does not support EARL. | Edinburgh Airport growth determined by UK White Paper policy. CAA policy on aircraft safety determines policy on bird location. |
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24 | Aileen Grant | RBS | Wish feedback and to be kept informed of changes to document going forward | Noted |
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Welcomes recognition of global connectivity importance for Scottish economy. Not clear how independent of airport expansion elements of strategy are. | Clarified in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework. |
A8 Corridor important gateway where current environmental condition of concern. Improving environmental quality and character should be more clearly spelled out. | An objective of West Edinburgh Partnership. |
OS base gives clarity. Need for flood safeguarding and for indicators of scale of structural landscaping. | Detail for West Edinburgh Partnership. |
Concerned at route of Gogar link road. Need to tie more closely with EARL and tram alignments in single corridor. | Other than tram, transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
RBS have until July 2015 to develop their second phase within current landscaping and transport parameters. | Noted |
Concern that West Edinburgh Planning Framework may be material consideration in development management before more rigourous development plan alterations have been processed. Greater clarity on process required. | Clarification in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework but Framework has status of SPP. |
Welcome Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland relocation. IBG should have robust site specific travel plan | Noted |
Green belt should remain until new landscape structure and site specific management plans established as a means ensuring companies deliver landscape quality. | Clarified in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
A buffer zone required between RBS and Norton Park New Showground. Statement requested to preserve setting of RBS and environmental character and quality of gateway. | Deemed not necessary given other features between the two developments, |
Support exclusion of M8 link. Tram and EARL should deliver before new development is agreed on IBG sites. | Noted |
Request to view emerging proposals for Gogar Burn to ensure no adverse upstream impact. | RBS representative now on Gogarburn Partnership. |
RBS formally request membership of Partnership and share their experience in responsible development. | Noted |
25 | Duncan Campbell | Edinburgh & Lothians Greenbelt Network | Estimate 4000 acres of Green Belt lost in past 50 years and another 8000 acres suffered from consequent development. Significant concern at loss of Green Belt. Economic growth predicated on airport expansion without due attention to Eddington, Stern or IPCC2007. Welcomes statement that air passenger forecasts will be reviewed in light of sustainable development and climate change. This should be immediate, not when next calculated. Bruntland sustainability of natural systems ignored in West Edinburgh Planning Framework. Framework demonstrates abundant supply of land for economic development elsewhere, so no need for IBG and what is needed is a National Policy for equitable distribution of growth throughout Scotland. | Climate change context now included in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework (documents referred to not available when draft written). Forecasts a matter for UK Government. Total misunderstanding of objectives of IBG development. National Planning Framework sets planning growth spatial strategy for Scotland and highlights role of West Edinburgh. |
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Difficult to envisage how A8 corridor can be protected and enhanced when proposed for complete urbanisation. Believes that a holistic landscape plan from Pentlands to South Queensferry is required. | Complete urbanisation is not the concept set out in West Edinburgh Planning Framework. Environmental enhancement an integral part of the concept. |
Need for second runway not demonstrated. | This is acknowledged in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
Only a significant growth option is proposed. A range of scenarios should be offered. SPP21 Green Belts set aside. Paragraph 25 significantly overstretched. | Noted |
Transport mitigation should be elaborated e.g. Transport modes should fit in a single corridor and as much as possible be in tunnel. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
A reasonable balance of high quality green landscape and high quality architecture is not compatible with realising the full potential as a driver of the Scottish economy. | Quality of design and offering a high quality product is precisely compatible with realising the full potential of economic growth through targeted inward investment. |
No reference to the European Landscape Convention | Only ratified by UK Government in November 2006; addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
Natural and built environment of Edinburgh and Lothians should be designated as national and international asset using National Park principles. | Beyond scope of West Edinburgh Planning Framework. |
26 | Brian Clarke | Park Lane | Represent the Trustees to the Allison family; feedback to be given to Owen Wilton, Development Manager. Allison Trust own 375 acres. Welcome the general approach and agree removal of green belt necessary to achieve economic and associated benefits. Expect Allison Family Trustees to be fully involved with RHASS and Scottish Executive in bringing forward a deliverable master plan. Mention Trustees as key stakeholder in Schedule 2. | Landowners not relevant to land use planning policy but Allison Trust acknowledged as key to relocation of Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland. |
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In principle support three given access options. Also support link from this land to M8 and onward to Airport. M8 link merits further investigation. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Suggest extent of land to be removed from Green Belt remains under review to allow for contribution to wider development opportunity. Wish detailed understanding of why boundaries drawn as shown and seek further review in ongoing consultation. | Noted |
27 | Moira Tasker | Cockburn Association | Notes with concern key policy context of higher economic growth where not clear that climate change is addressed. Strongly supports future review in light of changes to sustainable development and climate change policies. Specific references to Stern, Eddington and IPCC2007 required. | Final West Edinburgh Planning Framework provides climate change background context. |
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Para 11: central policy context of SPP21 should be set out before impacts on green belt proposed. | Clarified in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework. |
While supporting economic growth, inevitable car usage and Green Belt deterioration should be recognised. Quality of life, aspirations of local communities and economic benefit of landscape setting of City should be reflected in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework. | Noted |
Objects in strongest terms to removing Green Belt for future development as yet unknown. Urges development in core development areas rather than West Edinburgh. | West Edinburgh Planning Framework supports core development areas but IBG will be a planned release to meet specific objectives defined in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework. |
Requests environmental audit to assess capacity of rural landscape to absorb development. | Noted |
RBS should not be precedent; in unlikely event of a further such development it would not need pre-planning. | IBG offer requires high degree of pre-planning for a successful outcome. |
Consider that IBG allocation will degenerate into speculative development. | Safeguards will be put in place to ensure this does not happen |
50 years of Green Belt loss of 4000 acres and 4000 acres further affected by development. | Noted |
Para 16: strengthening of the protection and enhancement of the environment is required. | Noted |
Notes that Framework is predicated on second runway. Urge caution. | Not so. Second runway now safeguarded in Green Belt, not allocated pending demonstrated need. |
No information on height, scale, or quantity of potential future development. Masterplan required. | For West Edinburgh Partnership to do detailed master planning following strategic design framework prepared by City of Edinburgh Council. |
28 | Mike Purves | | Objects to relocation of Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland on grounds of loss of green belt; use for temporary parking north of Freelands Road; Freelands Road unclassified, narrow at rail bridge, used by horse riders, walkers, cyclists; providing parking will encourage car use in congested area; conflict with CEC finger plan; diminishing wildlife habitats destroyed; economic development land should be at Edinburgh Park and RHASS on IBG land | Noted |
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29 | Richard Bentley | | Home (Hallyards Farm) blighted by vision; objects to IBG relaxation of green belt; valuation of land of national importance; human rights of individual against West Edinburgh Planning Framework policy | Noted |
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30 | Alan W Russell | Fife Chamber | Welcome Framework particularly for access to Edinburgh Airport and opportunities for Fife businesses. The Vision can only be achieved if strategic transport infrastructure is in place to link West Edinburgh and the Airport in particular to its neighbouring areas and the rest of Scotland. Believe M8 link will provide significant opportunity for dedicated public transport links as well as reducing congestion on alternative routes. M8 link needs futher exploration. Forth Replacement crossing directly linked to M9 requires consideration of links to airport. | Noted |
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31 | Iain Michie | Montagu Evans ( NEL) | Welcome support for rounding off and intensification of Edinburgh Park | West Edinburgh Planning Framework supports core development areas. |
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Concerned that removal of green belt and land preparation will result in general Class 4 development to detriment of Edinburgh Park where almost all occupiers could argue they are international business development. Framework should categorically direct proposed development to Edinburgh Park in first instance. Green Belt release should require demonstrated need for 4.05 hectares or 10 acres site. | Totally misunderstands the nature of the IBG proposal. What is required on IBG for Scotland's economic growth is different from what will continue to locate on Edinburgh Park and elsewhere. |
Object to designation of Eastfield Road for hotel development. Outstanding permissions at Edinburgh Park. | Following Hotel Needs Study IBG includes integral hotel development not in competition with other areas. |
32 | Graham Birse | Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce | Welcome sustainable growth. IBG contains highest economic potential in Scotland. National economies only prosper through performance of metropolitan regions ( OECD). Successful city regions have connectivity. For Scotland to compete, development land needs to be released around airports and zoned for global growth. | Noted |
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Welcome ambition particularly expansion of Edinburgh Airport; economic significance of Royal Highland Centre and relocation south of A8; allocation of IBG; recognition of need to address problems of Eastfield Road; vital connection between Airport investment and leverage of further growth, investment and high value added jobs. | Noted |
Object to exclusion of M8 link (quote cost of £40 to £60M).Could have minimal environmental effect, encourage bus transit from areas off rail and tram; should be full STAG and DMRB assessment. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
33 | Lindsay Kentley | Jonathan Kentley | Objects to relocation of Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland on grounds of loss of green belt; wholly inappropriate site being as it is in a beautiful historic village attractive to tourists and locals alike; Freelands Road unclassified, narrow at rail bridge, used by horse riders, walkers, cyclists and not able to withstand any increase in traffic; conflict with CEC finger plan; new Showground should be at Edinburgh Park; express extreme dissatisfaction at lack of notice and brought to attention because local councillor discovered it by accident day before deadline. | Objections noted. New Showground is not in any village but in open country. CEC finger plan is aspirational but designates A8 corridor for development. Ratho & District Community Council kept informed of consultation meetings throughout, and Councillor should have been fully informed by City of Edinburgh Council and was at a meeting well before day before deadline. |
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34 | Maureen Hogg | | Objects to relocation of Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland on grounds of incompatibility with RWELP only just adopted; loss of green belt; does not take account of 300 house development on Freelands Road at Ratho Station inserted in RWELP; does not take account of changed traffic flows on Freelands Road arising from EARL diversions; Freelands Road unclassified, narrow at rail bridge, used by horse riders, walkers, cyclists and not able to withstand any increase in traffic; conflict with CEC finger plan; providing parking at new Showground will encourage even greater car use and increase existing congestion. | CEC finger plan is aspirational but designates A8 corridor for development. Other points noted. |
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35 | Clive Robinson | | Objects to relocation of Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland on grounds of loss of green belt on top of modification 58 for 300 house development on Freelands Road at Ratho Station inserted in RWELP; Freelands Road unclassified, narrow at rail bridge, used by horse riders, walkers, cyclists and not able to withstand any increase in traffic; many under used brownfield sites e.g. Edinburgh Park with M8 and bus and rail links; conflict with CEC finger plan; rural landscape and setting around historic villages of Ratho and Roddinglaw will be trotally spoiled leading to villages being absorbed into continuous strip of development from Edinburgh. | CEC finger plan is aspirational but designates A8 corridor for development. Other points noted. |
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36 | Martin Wanless | Scottish Borders Council | Should acknowledge more clearly relationship to wider south east Scotland where a significant impact on planning and transportation will be felt in Lothians, Edinburgh, Fife and Scottish Borders. | Not clear what is meant here. West Edinburgh is a key driver of the Scottish economy and impacts elsewhere will be positive. |
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Should state clearly key role for Strategic Development Plan authority. The authotity should be the responsible body for monitoring and review of the document, and the next review should be a subject plan by the strategic development plan authority. | West Edinburgh Planning Framework has status of SPP. The development plan will incorporate its policy in due course. Subject Plans not relevant in new planning system. |
Welcome indication of future review re climate change. Emphasises impacts on economy, community, transport and environment in South East Scotland. | Noted |
Should refer to the proposed Waverley line in section on public transport links. | Transport links beyond immediate West Edinburgh hinterland not relevant in this document. |
37 | David Williamson | Midlothian Council | Broad support for strategic growth location. | Noted |
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Question why so much land allocated for airport growth in light of climate change concerns. Second runway land should be left as Green Belt and not allocated at this time. | Final West Edinburgh Planning Framework does safeguard second runway within Green Belt till need demonstrated. |
New Showground site larger than existing, and only permanent buildings should be removed from Green Belt. | Not logical to remove footprint of buildings, and not whole development site. |
89 hectares proposed for IBG strategic reserve. Compares with 51 hectare RBS site. Should not be released from green belt against a proposal that may not happen. General development here would undermine core development areas. Legal agreements and Directions should be confirmed and neighbouring authorities should be consulted on Master Plans. | IBG not in competition with core development areas which continue to be supported. The offer that West Edinburgh can make is unique and it is up to the West Edinburgh Partnership to implement the policy. |
Hotel gateway is considerable area of land and could accommodate many hotels. Midlothian wants principle of gateway hotels extended to other authorities. | Hotel gateway was indicative in draft West Edinburgh Planning Framework. Now hotels an integral part of IBG. Not relevant to other authorities where development plan policies prevail. |
Funding for roads should not be at expense of core development area infrastructure. Should be commitment to orbital bus services from areas round the bypass to West Edinburgh. | Noted |
Abstraction of 1080 hectares of Green Belt should be a SDP issue and not for local plans, as it is biggest ever abstraction. | Only 556 hectares to be removed from Green Belt in draft West Edinburgh Planning Framework due to new land use allocations, and 280 hectares of this is second runway which will remain in Green Belt till need proven. |
38 | David Leven | SEEL | Welcome bold vision and strategy. West Edinburgh crucial to growing Scotland's economy as a competitive location with European city regions. Successful realisation of the strategy for West Edinburgh could realise additional economic output of around £1.7 billion Gross Value Added per annum to the Scottish economy. In context entire Scottish food and drink industry worth £1.7 billion GVA per annum and life sciences currently £0.9 billion GVA per annum. | Noted |
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Strongly support policy recommendations in Framework and particularly keen to help facilitate relocation of Royal Highland Centre and its redevelopment as Scotland's National Showground. | Noted |
Only significant concern is proposal not to proceed with safeguard for M8 link. Premature to discount completely without more detailed assessment of costs and benefits. Keen to see ways of delivering M8 link with EARL in single physical corridor. Accept implications for existing park and ride and hotel corridor but important to long term strategic priority. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Also keen for momentum of recent months to continue into implementation phase. SEEL looking forward to helping with Action Plan and well positioned to lead process of engagement over delivery of IBG. | Noted |
39 | Archibald JC Clark | Currie Community Council | Disappointed that emphasis almost entirely economic without any real appreciation of damage to setting of city. Where did the statement that economy is Executive's top priority come from? | The previous administration's Partnership Agreement for Government. The current administration's overarching objective is sustainable economic growth. |
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Non-sustainable drive for expansion in vicinity of Airport on back of air passenger forecasts. | The two are not directly related. The existence of the Airport is a strong factor irrespective of the growth forecasts. |
Difficult to understand logic of 10 year legal agreement and future of quality buildings. Suggests 40 year agreement. | Addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
Argues for inner city sites for economic development as more sustainable. Disapprove of tramline. | Totally misunderstands arguments in favour of IBG and support for core development areas. |
Surprised at only one rather inadequate and insufficiently detailed map. Schedules include places not on the map. Omission of reference to Forth Replacement Crossing resources and timescale serious. Concern that people will look for housing south of the Forth and put pressure on areas on Edinburgh's western outskirts. | The Vision Map was appropriate to a strategic document. Schedules referred to first West Edinburgh Planning Framework and focus is now on a much tighter area. The Forth Replacement Crossing Study was not started when draft written, but will be taken into account in STAG appraisal of West Edinburgh. |
Executive following Heathrow model where airport surrounded by sheds. Eastfield Road chicane of roundabouts will be further compounded by Framework proposals. | Sheds are expressly not what the IBG is about. Nor will Eastfield Road necessarily be involved in principal access to IBG sites. Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Reference to environmental quality to be protected and enhanced, but no evidence in document as to how this is to be achieved. Development should be reallocated to existing townships within their existing boundaries. | Misunderstands nature of the proposals. |
40 | Ian Johnson | Institute of Transport Administration | Plan well thought out to create a high quality development with potential for improving economic standards. | Noted |
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Para 14: Large number of brownfield sites exist within West Edinburgh and should be developed before green belt release. Need to transport a large proportion of Edinburgh's population to work here with potential environmental cost. | Misunderstands nature of the proposals. Brownfield sites in West of Edinburgh are supported for development within core development areas. Transport opportunities in West Edinburgh underpin economic aspirations given need to import labour and skills for benefit of Scotland's economy. |
Para 17: responsibility for AQMA put on CEC but Scottish Executive in M8, M9 and A720 have responsibilities too. Hermiston Junction between M8 and A720 and adjacent employment area junctions cause severe congestion and air quality problems. | AQMA responsibility lies with local authority |
Para 19: Welcome new road links to Airport but Gogar junction heavily congested as is Newbridge at peak times introducing unreliability into car trips to the Airport. Reference to no net detriment to motorway and trunk road network impossible to achieve without improvements to network. | Noted. Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Para 20: Support site for relocation but will require access and egress that does not detrimentally affect traffic to airport or on A8. Eastfield Road must be dualled as must Gogar and Ratho Station links. Question EARL. | Noted. Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Para 21: Needs more bus services to Airport to increase public transport mode share from Lothians, Scottish Borders and Central Scotland. | Agreed. Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Vision Map shows tram line (Newbridge) crossing A8. It must not impinge on the A8 traffic or there will be serious repercussions throughout west Edinburgh. | The Newbridge branch has Parliamentary approval to cross A8 at grade. This is not under the control of West Edinburgh Planning Framework. |
41 | Keith Winter | Fife Council | Welcome EARL and tram links to Airport. 747 bus very successful and could continue beyond EARL. | Noted |
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Welcome commitment to take account of sustainable development and climate change when forecasts are next calculated. Suggest as soon as possible. | Forecasts are responsibility of UK Government |
Conflict between paragraph 15 prime strategic importance of greater public transport mode share and paragraph 19 primary aim of no net detrimental impact on motorway and trunk road network. | Noted |
Schedule 1 covers mitigation of transport impacts except in Newbridge. Also terminology "subject to" and "in association with" not consistent. | Noted |
New road links still leave Newbridge-Ratho Station bottleneck which require bus and HOV priority to maintain efficient access to Airport. New road links to be designed of sufficient width to incorporate walking, cycling, HOV and bus priority. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Presumably final Framework will reflect Forth Replacement Crossing Study outcome, and lane closures on existing bridge. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Essential to identify a new route for LRT between crossing and west Edinburgh tram network. Fife preferred route north of A8 and east of M9 to Kirkliston, then existing A8000 to crossing. This would require Vision Map development areas to have their boundaries adjusted to accommodate LRT. | Vision Map is at a strategic level and while this proposal is noted it is premature to adjust land boundaries at this stage. Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Retention of proposed M8 link would satisfy, subject to modelling, concerns over congestion on A8 between Newbridge and Ratho Station. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Support concept of Eastfield Road being prioritised for walking, cycling, buses and HOVs. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Believe significant infrastructure issues with relocated Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland site and would welcome opportunity to discuss a site in the M90 corridor in Fife with Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland and other parties. | The site selection process is long beyond any consideration of alternative sites; in any event it was decided early in the site selection process that only sites in City of Edinburgh and West Lothian would fulfil Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland objectives. |
42 | Forbes Marr | Trustees of Sir Robert Usher Executry | Principal interest in land south of Ratho Station (see plan). Clients of view that Vision Map and Schedules need to include development on either side of tram and rail stations at Ratho Station. Likely that station will be reopened to serve Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland new site. Clients land needs to be added to Showground site as access linkages. | Noted. To state it is likely a station will be opened to serve Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland site is premature and to assume it would be the former Ratho Station site is presumptious. Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
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If EARL does not go ahead Ratho Station will be critical strategic element. If tram also does not go ahead bus shuttles will be necessary from Ratho Station to Airport. | This is speculation. With EARL abandoned there is a shorter surface rail link to the Airport from Gogar, and the existing service 100 bus will remain together with bus links from Fife and West Lothian. |
Extension of Norton House Hotel perhaps onto client's land, better quality and quieter than in airport gateway sites. | A matter for Norton House Hotel and your client, but does not affect hotel provision within IBG. |
Clients disagree with CEC view that land south of railway off Freelands Road need not be designated as not to be used for more than 28 days a year. | Noted |
Clients do not accept CEC's focussed approach to LP alteration. Clients seek early and meaningful opportunity to be involved and believe Scottish Executive should set parameters for LP. | Not clear what is meant by CEC's focused approach. The West Edinburgh Planning Framework has the status of a SPP and will be incorporated in development plans. |
43 | Forbes Marr | Flowpearl Limited, 6 East Mains of Ingliston | Land interest in smallholding No 6 (see map). Seek confirmation that southern boundary of airport expansion is specific, not indicative, and the business development zone will also be confirmed as specific regardless of alignment of rail or tram routes. Clients seek opportunity to participate in both master plan and local plan alteration. Amenable to appropriate early realisation of the development value of this key area of land. Clients hope that all boundaries will be specific in final framework. Concern that RBS site does not match the planning permission and local plan allocation. | RBS point acknowledged. Boundaries are intended to reflect position of main stakeholders acceptable as planning policy, but detailed master planning by the West Edinburgh Partnership may lead to further minor modification of boundaries. |
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44 | Cameron Walker | FSH etc | Welcome removal of economic development and hotel development areas from green belt. | Noted |
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Support exclusion of M8 link. If proposed in future should run to west of Eastfield Road. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Still too many limitations to development in this corridor. Window of opportunity between road links being in place and completion of tram and rail combined with lengthy planning process eliminates development opportunities. Hotels relate to airport not transport or city so caveat irrelevant. Also confusing to link airport and city hotels. Definition of airport hotel should include business, conference, exhibition activity. | Noted |
Diversion of Gogar Burn paramount to eliminating flood risk to development land. | Agreed |
Reference to master plans and Local Development Plans confusing and recipe for fatal delay. West Edinburgh Planning Framework should make clear its unique status and remove ambiguities. Directions should not rely on CEC firstly deliberating before referral to Ministers. | Clarified in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework. Direction would be where CEC wished to approve something not in accord with West Edinburgh Planning Framework policies. |
FSH wishes to participate fully in master planning processes etc. Seek meeting with the Scottish Government. | Noted |
45 | Ian Michie | Montagu Evans ( FSH) | see 31 | |
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46 | Margaret Smith MSP | John Barrett MP | Important for future well being of Scotland. | Agreed |
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Change since 2004 is apparent lack of realistic timeframe for tram to go to Newbridge. | Noted |
Economic growth and land use important, but concerned that Framework generally fails to recognise importance of communities and residents of West Edinburgh. Issues include need to support local communities; to build affordable homes; to find ways that economic growth can translate into improvement, not diminution in quality of life of local rsidents in Ratho Station, Newbridge, Kirkliston and surrounding areas. | Settlement strategy outside scope of West Edinburgh Planning Framework. Linking opportunity and need should be a key element of implementation by West Edinburgh Partnership. |
No regard to human or planning rights of affected local residents. Seek more frequent stakeholder meetings as the Framework is progressed. | Noted |
Concerned that air passenger forecasts are accepted. Prudent to safeguard second runway but do not believe it is desirable or inevitable. Prefer to see commitment to keep forecasts under regular and ongoing review. Framework should be reviewed on 5 year basis. Support plans to remove permitted development rights for BAA car parking. | Final West Edinburgh Planning Framework safeguards second runway but retains in Green Belt till need demonstrated. |
Welcome relocation of Showground south of A8. Accept Green Belt dispositions. But concerned that Ratho Station housing expansion to east reduced and thus undermines school provision. Classic example of need for Framework to work with communities. Music events at new Showground will need to be sited with respect to Ratho Station. | Noted |
Agree removal of M8 link. Public transport investment, proximity of Newbridge junction, and effect on new Showground all count against it. Proper modelling needed at Gogar roundabout if Gogar link to be put in. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Impossible to support loss of green belt, proposed IBG and hotel corridor on Eastfield Road. Not aware how IBG conditions can be guaranteed. Reserve right to object to individual proposals. No IBG before tram and EARL on ground. Structure Plan reserves green belt till 2015. Any development of highest quality and design. | Noted |
Regard should be paid to removal of FRB tolls and Forth Replacement Crossing Study and effects on transport entering the city. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Major concern that despite having a major knock-on impact on local communities, Framework is silent on much needed regeneration. Paragraph 2 statement leaves it to local plan, when Framework influences local plans on other issues. | Regeneration outwith scope of West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
Release of land for IBG would seem reasonable therefore to revisit economic development allocations in Newbridge. | IBG and economic development land in local communities have two quite different roles. To pursue key economic role of West Edinburgh in Scotland's economy through IBG does not mean that other economic development land in core development areas becomes a national issue. |
Do not support further development of Gyle Centre due to effects on city centre and Corstorphine. | Noted and outwith scope of final West Edinburgh Planning Framework. |
Support Gogar Burn work and will seek meeting with tie. | Noted |
Support mention of Corstorphine AQMA in final Framework, and support review in light of replacement Forth Crossing. | Noted |
Need to monitor and mitigate aircraft noise which is a considerable issue for constituents around the Airport and in Cramond and Newbridge. A further runway would increase the impact on Kirkliston. | Noted |
In Vision Map RBS boundary should reflect Local Plan. | Addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
47 | Iain Gotts Associates | West Craigs Ltd ( HBOS) | Following disposal to tie of land for tram depot, WCL will have 4 hectares immediately west of depot. Land should be in IBG zone. If the land allocated, WCL will participate in Implementation Partnership. | Noted |
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48 | Turley Associates | PPG | Reports pursuant to Item 65 | |
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49 | Alasdair Morrison | GVA Grimley | Newbridge Regeneration Working Group Inception Report | Noted |
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50 | Mr McPhail | Residents of Middle Norton | Represents 7 residents. Parking at Gogar layby and Ingliston P+R for RBS employees. Greater control required for future developments. Need assurance that new road links from Ratho Station to Airport will be all purpose and not just buses and taxis. Areas marked as potential economic development land and hotel gateway cause concern for residents of Middle Norton. Any buildings over 2 storeys will have a detrimental impact and considerable extra noise from volume of traffic will be deflected back on Middle Norton. This is unacceptable. Assurances sought on height of buildings, density per acre, and access to development from the A8 corridor. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. A design brief will be prepared by the West Edinburgh Partnership in consultation with the community and stakeholders. The intention is not that buildings should abut the A8, but rather that they sit back in landscaped grounds. |
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A number of properties at Middle Norton are Grade C listed; within the BAA growth area are Grade B and Grade C listed buildings. Assurances sought that these will be retained and maintained in the future. | The Middle Norton properties are not subject to acquisition by any of the proposals in the West Edinburgh Planning Framework. Within the BAA growth area as shown on the Airport Master Plan, it is likely that buildings will be demolished but that will be for negotiation between BAA and Historic Scotland. |
Concern about air quality due to extra traffic and Middle Norton being in middle of Airport, Showground, trains and trams. Concern at severe NO2 pollution. Do I agree? | There could be an issue arising from air quality on the A8. For that reason the draft West Edinburgh Planning Framework relied on EARL and the tram, with enhanced bus services, to provide a sustainable transport service that would have maintained congestion, and therefore air quality, at the unavoidable background level caused by general traffic growth, without any contribution from development proposals. Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
51 | Ronald Oliver | Flowerpearl Ltd | Welcome overall approach including release of green belt land. | Noted |
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Ignores Winchburgh development Initiative and Motorway junction proposal. Should take into account Forth Replacement Crossing proposals. | Winchburgh is out of scope and is not a commitment in any case. Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
M8 link should not be dismissed on local intrusion but assessed on the whole area big picture. Ratho (Station) and Gogar links short sighted and M8 link could replace both. Development generated traffic will make it unwise to reject M8 link. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Economic development land should include Fairview Road to the west; Ratho Station link would release Fairview Road capacity. Masterplan should promote range of commercial uses including different scales of hotels and other airport related uses. | Addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
52 | Maura McCormack | PPCA / WDI | Green belt treated as ad hoc and requires wider context of Edinburgh's green finger approach. SPP21 requires a wider context to be taken. | Addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
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No reference to role of eastern West Lothian and transport links to achieve integration here. Not appropriate to view West Edinburgh Planning Framework transport in isolation, with little regard to effect on Newbridge Roundabout, and to implied role of congestion in achieving mode share. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
WEPF should extend north to embrace Forth Replacement Crossing and its implications | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
53 | Maura McCormack | PPCA / McTaggart & Mickel | WEPF should extend north to embrace Forth Replacement Crossing and its implications | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
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54 | Iain D Duff | SCDI | Review timely; vital that investment continues to support business and first class environment in which to operate. In general SCDI supports objectives and elements of Framework | Noted |
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Support green travel plan initiatives used by many companies in West Edinburgh and should be required in new developments. | Noted |
Supports sustainable development principles in continuing expansion of Edinburgh Airport. Paragraph 8 attribution of significant share of emissions from aviation are perhaps exaggerated. | Noted |
Supports relocation of Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland but sufficient land must be available and the site must be accessible from throughout Scotland by various modes of transport. | Noted |
Believe M8 link should not be ruled out. Modelling flawed. More work on detailed route required to ensue it does not interfere with Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland plans for new Showground. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
55 | John Handley | Ediston Properties | Owners of 64 acre former Continental Tyre Factory. Refer to statement that regeneration of Newbridge is for local plan, but consider regeneration should be defined and local plan timetable set out. Detailed submission for Schedule 2 treatment of Newbridge. Seek local development framework as supplementary planning guidance to avoid local plan process. | Out of scope of West Edinburgh Planning Framework. |
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IBG was exactly what was proposed for Continental Tyre Factory as included in West Edinburgh Planning Framework 2003. Therefore switching this to Eastfield Road area requires alternative to be spelt out for Newbridge i.e. housing led regeneration. | IBG is a unique development specification that a public private partnership will develop. It is quite different from any proposals for Newbridge. Regeneration outwith scope of West Edinburgh Planning Framework and for CEC. |
56 | John Russell | Living Streets Scotland | Very concerned that no reference to contribution walking and cycling can make to solution of travel and transport problems in West Edinburgh. Nor any links to wider traffic reduction, environmental sustainability, health and social inclusion policies. Suggest added wording re creation of high quality walk and cycle networks throughout the area in context and strategic vision objectives. CDA development should link by local networks to jobs. IBG likely to be car oriented for short term economic gain. Vision Map should include strategic walk and cycle links. | Addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
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57 | Ian Aitken | Castle Gogar | Request identified area be removed from Green Belt for residential development to accommodate Phase 2 of restoration works to Castle Gogar by 4 contemporary houses and a lodge house. Plan supplied. | Not a national planning issue; for CEC to address with landowner / developer within Castle Gogar site. |
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59 | Joe McCann | | Raises historic issue over planning consent for Royal Highland Centre events and 28 day rule. Supports IBG. Suggests Freelands Road area be permanent car park acting as P+R with access off M8. Also suggests reopening Ratho station. | Noted |
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60 | Anne Follin | BAA | Welcomes support to airport expansion; does not understand rationale behind proposed removal of car parking permitted development rights; believe dismissal of M8 link is seriously flawed technically; agree with establishment of West Edinburgh Partnership. | Noted support. Removal of car parking permitted development rights to enable control over mode share targets, but does not mean presumption against car parking. Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
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West Edinburgh Planning Framework done an excellent job in setting out a long term strategic vision for the area. | Noted. |
Take issue with statement that air travel contributes a significant amount of total emissions. Stern Report shows transport contributes 14% of global emissions, of which aviation accounts for 1.75%. Expected to be 5% by 2050. Emissions trading (supported by BAA) recognised by Stern as the most effective means of tackling the problem. Agree that WEPF should be reviewed to reflect future changes in air passenger forecasts. | Addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
In investing £220M over last 10 years and £300M over next 10 years, support removal of airport and other identified uses from Green Belt. Agree with greater focus on public transport in maintaining efficient access to airport. ASAS attached. Support view that visual amenity of gateway needs to be protected and enhanced and more could be done to encourage landowners to take responsibility for attractiveness of their land. | Noted. |
Arguments regarding car parking on and off airport and CEC practice used to suggest no need to remove PD rights for car parking. Restricting parking will increase kiss and fly. Reference to background material re Planning etc Scotland Act 2006 to argue that PD rights should be retained. | Removing PD rights not the same as restricting car parking. |
Welcomes relocation of Royal Highland Centre and proposals for IBG. | Noted |
Eastfield Road life expired but hotels unlikely to wish to locate along a non-car corridor. Hotels should be within walking distance of terminal and rail station to avoid shuttle bus transit. | Addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
Transport modelling defective and in particular BAA strongly support M8 link. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
61 | Belinda Oldfield | Scottish Water | Support strategic vision. SW financed to meet objectives 2006-2010. Initial consultation on 2010 to 2014. Programme of joint working with developers in West Edinburgh needs to be established. Currently working with BAA and other developers in Kirkliston and Newbridge and aware of A8 corridor proposals. | Noted |
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Water and Drainage Impact Assessments will be required. This will be financed by developers but a proportion may be reclaimable. Emphasise importance of developers working together to establish cumulative impacts. | West Edinburgh Partnership will take this forward. |
62 | Colin Gordon | SARDC Rural Centre Ingliston | Welcomes and supports move to new Showground. Also supports rejection of M8 link and believes that Gogar and Ratho Station links will better facilitate the airport and Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland events. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
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Believes tram should be extended to Newbridge and that a rail halt should be provided adjacent the new Showground site. Also support hotel facilities. Believe move only feasible if BAA fully fund it. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
63 | Dr Margaret Bochel | City of Aberdeen Council | No comment. | |
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64 | Maria Francke | Drivers Jonas (Gyle Centre) | On 6 October 2006 Gyle Centre sold to William Ewart Properties Limited. Refers to previous submissions on redevelopment of Gyle Centre. | Noted |
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65 | Colin Smith | Turleys/ PPG | Refers to land interest of PPG at Eastfield Road. Increased need for West Edinburgh Planning Framework to avoid prejudicing or constraining the development potential of land at this stage. (Documents including maps at item 48) | Noted |
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Definition of business development within IBG should be less prescriptive and Quality Hotel Gateway "which at present covers only the westernmost part of the site" should be extended to cover whole of Eastfield Road site. Amendments made in EARL Bill mean site as a whole is accessible from Eastfield Road by bridge over railway adjacent to A8. | Noted |
IBG definition unduly restrictive and potentially unsustainable. Headquarters could preclude high profile businesses identifying secondary offices in West Edinburgh. Campus style and single user potentially incompatible with each other and with accessibility of the area which demands high density development around transport nodes. | Addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
Hotel gateway should allow whole PPG site as hotel could benefit from tram stop at P+R. Hotels should not be dependent on improved road access given sustainability principles. | Addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
Stakeholders should all be invited to work within West Edinburgh Partnership. | Noted |
Refers to land interest of PPG at Ratho Station. Propose restrict new Showground to east of tram line and west of tram line be deleted from Green Belt to accommodate medium to long term growth of Ratho Station village. | Not compatible with CEC planning policy |
Only obvious prospect for expansion of village to aid its regeneration is east of the village. Hillwood Primary School under utilised. Village in a spiral of decline. Proposals increase village from 425 homes by 200 including affordable housing; a new primary school at the heart of the village; new access onto A8 by new Showground junction. These proposals conflict with indicative new Showground boundaries. | Not compatible with CEC planning policy |
Indicative Showground plan book-ends village by massive swathe of exposed car parking to east and industry to west. Propose Showground car parking be confined to east of tram line, and village grow to meet tram line from west. | Not compatible with CEC planning policy |
66 | Susan Napier | Dunedin Canmore | Support framework to energise the area, but concerned that affordable housing is provided and that housing is released in this part of Edinburgh through the Framework to allow people to live close to work and minimise travel times. | Outwith scope of West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
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67 | Wendy O'Neil | | Concern at new Showground behind property at Middle Norton; grateful for advice given to talk with Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland; concern at IBG across the A8; constructively seeking co-operation with Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland and as a small community making progress. | Noted |
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68 | Ken Tippen | CEC | Welcome publication of West Edinburgh Planning Framework; authorise officers to work with partners to finalise Framework and agree implementation process; indicate regret re failure to engage tie, the local Community Council, and local elected member of Council in stakeholder group; note failure of Framework to take account of realignment of Roddinglaw Road, recognise impact on RHASS relocation and suggest Freelands Road temporary parking be reexamined in Framework; note preparation of Newbridge and Ratho Station Regeneration Working Group Village Regeneration Plan; note WEPF submitted 1 year later than anticipated, and request SE to finalise the document as soon as possible; A8 corridor conceived as extension to city as part of 2040 Vision; ask SE to remove permitted development rights for airport car parking. | Refute Community Council not invited to engage; Newbridge and Ratho Station Regeneration outwith scope of West Edinburgh Planning Framework local member the responsibility of CEC partner; refute West Edinburgh Planning Framework 1 year later than anticipated as timing dependent on external factors; now agreed that CEC will remove permitted development rights on airport car parking; other support noted. |
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Recognition of need to review air passenger forecasts is welcome, and if carried through, Council would support review of the Framework. | Review process explained and second runway now dependent on demonstration of need subsequent to future forecasts |
IBG can only operate sustainably once tram and EARL are operational | West Edinburgh Planning Framework makes IBG dependent on tram and Gogar Station. |
Retail development at Gyle contrary to Structure Plan, could only happen in context of city retail review, and best omitted from Framework. | Outwith scope of final West Edinburgh Planning Framework; omitted. |
RBS boundary is ECON9 allocation in Local Plan. Framework covers ownership rather than policy allocation. Policy boundary already includes expansion proposals. | Acknowledged, but RBS now on base map and therefore no longer on Vision Map. |
Newbridge Ratho Station Study overtaken by West Edinburgh Planning Framework and rewording suggested for Paragraph 19 and Schedule 1. | Now outwith scope of final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
Framework should give greater prominence to issues thrown up by airport expansion. Safeguarding for new runway should be in Schedule 2 with detail on impacts and mitigation. | Second runway now safeguarded but retained in Green Belt till need demonstrated. |
Supports relocation of Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland. Temporary car parking south of railway should be less than 28 days a year and therefore not require permission. It should be omitted from Framework Vision Map. Master Plan to be prepared with Council and its overall design guidance and mode share guidance. Council not able to endorse indicative layout plan. Design framework will be prepared prior to finalisation of West Edinburgh Planning Framework. Impact on Ratho Station should be given particular attention. | Land south of railway retained but with clear caveats regarding temporary uses or need for planning permission in accord with development plan. Other matters proceeding through RHASS work preparatory to planning application. |
Supports IBG but clarity on definition and control and phased release with public transport needed. Technical issues raised on control mechanisms, Use Class Order, Section 75 Agreements. Proximity of Airport to IBG is an issue to be addressed. | Definition, control and phasing of release addressed in West Edinburgh Planning Framework. Other matters for detailed design stages. |
Supports airport related hotels on Eastfield Road but clarification that this land not exclusively for hotels. Should release reflect need or demand. Council's extended P+R site boundary should be clearly shown, not just by symbols. | P+R site now on base map. Hotel issue addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework in light of hotel study and greater integration with IBG and Airport. |
Support Gogar Burn Partnership Group. Finalised Framework should explain in general terms impact of second runway on River Almond, including culverting or diversion for up to 4km, environmental effects and mitigation measures. Finalised Framework should commit partners to undertake Sustainable Development Framework for the Almond. | For future consideration in context of demonstrated need for second runway. |
Transport proposals will contribute significantly to Council's sustainable transport objectives for access to the Airport. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Not providing M8 link is fully consistent with Council's approach to sustainable travel. Congestion relief is only one factor. Costs would be high and there are technical difficulties re M8 junction (Vision Map not to scale on junction geometry). Given relative levels junctions and structures likely to be very visually intrusive. Major severance / sterilisation effects on new Showground and hotel gateway. Major impact on P+R site and sever it from tram stop. Ratho link should be Ratho Station link. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Gogar link should not replace Eastfield Road as an access. It is relatively indirect, serves development sites, and to replicate a grade separated junction at Gogar as at Eastfield Road would be extremely expensive and intrusive. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Fully supports mode share emphasis. Changes to Paragraph 18 wording and add item on mode share to Schedule 2. Suggest a 33% public transport share target based on anecdotal evidence from RBS. A specific item on mode share would allow deletion of mode share text re Airport in Schedule 2. | RBS anecdotal evidence and modelling suggest target of 45%. Sensitivity testing done on 35% and 25%. Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Strongly supports removal of permitted development rights for airport car parking. Crucial to managed holistic approach. Significant income derived by BAA from parking can create tensions in working towards sustainable transport objectives. | CEC now to proceed to Article 4 Direction. |
Need to consider in Framework how area relates to rest of city, physically and functionally, improve landscape context, maximise benefits of tram and EARL. Balanced by need to provide environment attractive to IBG. Council will lead on Urban Design Framework for area. | Noted |
Corstorphine AQMA declared on 31/12/2006. Final Framework should address more fully noise from aircraft, particularly cross wind runway in short term, and geography of increased noise post 2020 with second runway. | Not for West Edinburgh Planning Framework to address aircraft noise arising from White Paper growth forecasts. |
Vision Map should be redrawn to show and annotate CDAs if these remain within the Framework. Boundaries should not be indicative, but give certainty. P+R sites should be delineated, not symbols; RBS policy boundary should replace ownership boundary. | CDAs no longer relevant to Vision Map. P+R site on base map, as is RBS so not specifically designated in policy terms. |
69 | Dr Gordon Doughty | Scottish Green Belts Alliance | A vital asset of West Edinburgh is high quality of remaining green belt landscapes with open countryside, hedgerow and woodland. The Framework would accelerate the destruction of the Green Belt and the effectiveness of its purpose. | Noted |
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There is no need for economic development here; there is plenty of land elsewhere in Scotland. Draft assumes continuing demand for offices when electronic communication suggests otherwise. | Totally misunderstands nature of IBG in the economic geography of Scotland |
The draft forecasts airport expansion and associated economic growth without considering that Government will need to limit airport expansion due to effects of carbon emissions on global warming. The forecasts need to be revised down. | Addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
A misinterpretation of Brundtland sustainable development to not consider the natural systems that support life on earth. | Noted |
70 | Brian Healey | SEPA | Encourages greater clarity about relationship of West Edinburgh Planning Framework to NPF2. Reservations about detachment from wider debate on national developments in NPF2. Prefer to see West Edinburgh Planning Framework flow from NPF2. | Timescales do not allow West Edinburgh Planning Framework to flow from NPF2. Draft National Planning Framework 2 supports West Edinburgh Planning Framework and no conflict in the situation. |
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West Edinburgh Planning Framework represented by scenario 1 of SEA. SEPA water environment and flood risk implications only likely to be met by scenario 3. Account should be taken of flood risk mapping. See SEPA Policy 41 on SEPA website. | Flood risk mapping indicative and subject to methodoligical constraints. Work done on Gogar Burn catchment is specific to West Edinburgh and therefore more relevant. |
River Basin Management Planning process now underway with completion by December 2009. Objectives due December 2008. Reference required in West Edinburgh Planning Framework. West Edinburgh Planning Framework should take account of pressures in Annex 1 relating to good ecological status by 2015 and include measures to address these pressures. | Gogar Burn Partnership work relevant and referenced. |
Query presumption that GBPG will implement recommendations. No authority on voluntary partners to do so. Clarification required on implementation and funding. Framework should link closely and build upon West Lothian River Almond Catchment Management Plan. | For West Edinburgh Partnership but willingness so far to invest. |
Su DS in West Edinburgh Planning Framework should be wetland ponds with 100% reed coverage or "wet woodland". Other techniques deter birds and developers should consider construction phase sediment retention ponds that incorporate bird deterrent measures. Imperative that all developments take account of climate change in designing SuDS. Culverts being opened up would be supported by SEPA. | Noted |
All development should connect to a public sewerage system. West Edinburgh Planning Framework should confirm that existing network has sufficient local capacity to accommodate proposed development. Liaison required with Scottish Water. | For West Edinburgh Partnership |
SEPA appreciates that air transport aspects outside West Edinburgh Planning Framework control. Supports position over future forecasting, and seeks greater clarity over timescales for that. Would like to see a commitment by BAA to review Master Plan to follow any revised forecasts. | Forecasts a matter for UK Government. Master Plan for BAA but willingness to review as forecasts change. |
Supports integrated transport approach to air quality. SEPA consider that mitigation should include highly restrictive parking provision for all new development including the airport, and all new growth in air passenger numbers accommodated by increased public transport capacity. Transport assessments should take account of commuter traffic in west Edinburgh and assess cumulative impacts upon congestion and air quality. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Support Royal Highland relocation but want three or four alternative sites which met the criteria also listed to examine whether a brownfield site would have been appropriate. SEPA seek input to master plan process at early stage to ensure best environmental options achieved. | Site selection process thorough and subject to stringent criteria. |
Supports sustainable design, renewable energy, Edinburgh Standards for Sustainable Building and forthcoming SPP6. | Noted |
71 | Alastair Reid | Scottish Association for Public Transport | Principal concern funding delivery of major transport infrastructure. Need for strategic STAG and SEA evaluation of alternative transport strategy for West Edinburgh, Anglo-Scottish and external links before finalised West Edinburgh Planning Framework. Wishes STAG assessment of Gogar variant put forward by SAPT and TRANSform Scotland. | Much of this outside scope of West Edinburgh Planning Framework. Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
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No evidence to support transport interchange at Airport. Assertion of lack of BAA contribution. Investment strategy will concentrate economic development to detriment of rest of Scotland. Air passenger forecasts need to be revised in light of shift in domestic passengers to rail. | BAA have committed to contribution to transport interchange. Investment strategy designed to capitalise on connectivity, with unique special IBG development proposal. This does not detract in any way from economic investment elsewhere and spin-offs from the type of development sought could benefit other areas significantly. |
Refer to Stern and Eddington and outcome of STPR and CSR. Deflect development elsewhere in Scotland. Revise air passenger forecasts. Promote Gogar interchange and heavily modify rail network to focus on Gogar. Add development land north, west and south of Gogar interchange. Retain RHASS on land proposed for airport expansion. Supports rejection of M8 link. | Climate changed addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework (reports not available prior to draft). Air passenger forecasts a UK matter. Gogar rail proposals a significant restructuring of the east of Scotland rail map. Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Proposals for NPF2 covering transport throughout Scotland and to England / Europe. | Noted |
72 | Maurice Hankey | RSABI | Support SARDC comments | Noted |
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73 | Laura Gordon | Glasgow-Edinburgh Collaboration | West Edinburgh Planning Framework critical to Scotland's future growth and development particularly through high value employment. Biggar Economics estimate its successful delivery could be worth additional annual economic output of £1.7billion. Particularly endorse co-ordinated approach to land use and transport issues and proposals for IBG. Glasgow and Edinburgh play complementary roles in the greatest UK concentration of financial services businesses outside London and developing West Edinburgh ifor HQ developments is consistemt with this position and will serve to further enhance Scotland's role in an international context. Support the package of transport infrastructure and look to the future with high speed rail between Glasgow and Edinburgh. | Noted |
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74 | Kevin Murray | tie | Royal Assent to tram and EARL should be fully reflected in the final West Edinburgh Planning Framework. | Situation now changed, but current situation reflected. |
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CEC is promoter of tram with tie project managing. | Noted |
Para 18: make clearer that delivery of significant improvements to public transport infrastructure is a pre-requisite to delivery of Vision. Make clear sustainable refers to improved surface access and not just airport expansion. High quality transport system should be emphasised as sustainable. | Addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
Para 19: clarify that greatly improved public transport network a pre-requisite to additional development. Relocation of Royal Highland Centre gives opportunity to be served by Newbridge tram extension and master plan should maximise opprtunity. Tie would welcome opportunity to be consulted on emerging design. Allocation of IBG sites should include full integration with new public transport provision. Suggestion that hotel development be subject to new public transport as Gogar and Ratho links not sufficient to access hotel allocations. Refer to tram as pre-requisite for development and to linkages with Ingliston P+R and Airport Transport Interchange. Location of transport interchange on Vision Map is further north than currently planned. The new roads should be emphasised as part of a sustainable transport package and not sufficient in themselves to serve new developments. Reference to taking forward proposals against an integrated process gives opportunity to list SE objectives e.g. SPP17. Consistency of schedules with the comments made above. | Addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
Para 21: Very helpful statement and suggest further strengthened by making clear public transport essential pre-requisites. Any significant change in public transport elements will trigger a review. It might be helpful for this important statement to be at the start of the vision statement. | Addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
Para 12: "heavy ( EARL) and light (tram) networks" | Noted |
Para 15: No mention of strategic policy context for land use transport integration. Refer to SPP17. Replace "Maintaining" with "Improving" and add "public transport surface access". | Addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
Para 19: Amend text on optimal economic design solution to read "The delivery of EARL to improve accessibility; reduce journey times; facilitate a high quality transport interchange; and to allow long term development strategies at Edinburgh Airport and West Edinburgh, including the possible design and location of a second runway." | Addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
Schedule 2: "light (tram) and Heavy ( EARL)".."Scottish Parliament". | Addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
Para 25 third bullet: "ensuring that the necessary transport infrastructure (tram and EARL) is delivered". | Addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
Note: references to tram are in fact set out as Tram2 - where is "Edinburgh Tram Phase 1A"? | Addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework |
75 | Paul Douglas | Ratho & District Community Council | Allegation that Community Councils not consulted. | Refute Community Council not invited to engage; All community councils and residents groups invited to inception meetings and to launch meetings and informed of website. |
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Detailed issues regarding Roddinglaw and Freelands Roads not factored into West Edinburgh Planning Framework | Accepted and R& DCC engagement valuable in that regard |
Comment on Richard Jeffrey letter of 28 August 2003 as financially motivated and irrelevant. | Richard Jeffrey's point was not that BAA would gain from any development but that the Airport growth presented the opportunity to gain added economic value for Scotland of land outside BAA ownership and that such land should not be underutilised by Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland relocation. |
Concern at Green Belt allocation for IBG and Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland relocation. | Green Belt treated within policy context of SPP 21 |
Car parking in West Edinburgh is an issue; opportunity of multi-storey car parks. | Agreed that car parking is an issue and addressed in final West Edinburgh Planning Framework. |
Question why Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland stay within corridor | Best fit to criteria for accessibility and market demand for all Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland activities |
Cliftonhall site for multi-storey car park on CEC land accessible to M8, M9, railway, A8 ad A89. | Transport options for West Edinburgh subject to STAG appraisal. |
Regeneration initiative in Ratho Station / Newbridge | Not within scope of West Edinburgh Planning Framework and for CEC to respond to. |