| Description | Minutes of WEPFR Stakeholder Meeting 14 May 2005. |
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Attendees
David Bell | Jones Lang LaSalle |
Stuart Blake | Montagu Evans (Royal Highland
Showground) |
Bill Cantley | Cockburn Association |
Alan Clark | Scottish Executive Transport Division 1 |
Brian Clark | Park Lane Group |
Susan Clark | TIE |
Neil Clarkson | PWP Consulting |
Alex Dalrymple | Scottish Enterprise Fife |
Martin Dalziel | International Business Gateway Scotland |
John Mark Di Ciacca | EDI |
Geoff Duke | TIE |
Tom Hart | Scottish Association for Public
Transport |
Rorie Henderson | FSH Airport (Edinburgh)
Services Ltd |
Robin Holder | Turleys |
John Inman | City of Edinburgh Council (
CEC) |
Norman Izzett | |
Ann Follin | Edinburgh Airport Ltd |
Ruth Carey | Drivers Jonas |
Dave McCulloch | Scottish Enterprise Edinburgh and
Lothians |
Ray McMaster | TIE / Dundas and Wilson |
Michael Margereson | FSH Airport (Edinburgh)
Services Ltd |
Phil Noble | City of Edinburgh Council |
Ron Oliver | PPCA |
Roderick Paterson | International Business Gateway Scotland |
John Reade | Royal Bank of Scotland |
Alastair Short | West Lothian Council |
Margaret Smith
MSP | |
Jim Sorrell | DTZ |
Douglas Symington | Park Lane Group |
Cameron Walker | Hugh Martin Partnership |
Mr Watson | |
Keith Winter | Fife Council |
1. Presentation by Tom Williamson (
TW)
See Annex for copies of
slides and speaking notes.
2. Questions and Discussion
i) David Bell (Jones Lang LaSalle) : How will the
framework relate to the relevant development plan and what
alterations may be required?
The Rural West Edinburgh Local Plan Inquiry is scheduled
for November and is expected to last approximately 6
months. It may be that the framework will get to a stage by
that time that it can be considered a material
consideration at the inquiry but it is for
CEC to decide how the finalised
framework will fit into the development plan.
The Edinburgh and the Lothians Structure Plan is still
with Scottish Ministers, however the intention is for an
early review in 2006 therefore the framework will be built
into the next strategic plan early on.
ii) Tom Hart (Scottish Association of Public Transport)
:
- The aim is to create a good quality transport
interchange but this is not focused on in the National
Planning Framework (
NPF). The
NPF identifies two main growth
opportunity zones, West Edinburgh and the regeneration
of the Clyde Gateway / Clyde Waterfront. A lot of
attention is being focussed on Edinburgh but not on
sustainable transport in Glasgow. What are the
timetables for the Glasgow area?
- How do the high growth projections identified in
the Aviation White Paper fall in line with meeting
targets for reducing air emissions?
- What will be the impact of the growth forecasts?
i.e. the impact of high speed rail (up to
186mph) which the
NPF gives as 3 hour trip times and
the certainty in growth of flights from outwith
Scotland in relation to the reduction in domestic
flights. Have the appropriate forecast methods been
used as the framework seems to look to the big
expansion option. [Post meeting note: the
NPF does not refer to high speed
lines in the context of 3 hour journey times; it refers
to bringing more of Scotland within 3 hours of the
north of England market.]
TW specialises in the East of Scotland,
there was no representative present with detailed knowledge
of the Glasgow area but
TW said that this area is understood to
be subject to local initiatives. Ministers are considering
how to take it forward in terms of the
NPF statement. .
The forecasts in the
UK White Paper originate from the
Department for Transport, and Scottish Executive accept
them. They have been taken through the processes of the
UK government and are therefore
UK policy. We are all aware of the
environmental arguments but this is not the situation at
the moment. It may change and come to the fore in the
future but at present we are charged with delivering the
policy in the White Paper. The Scottish Executive is not
able to undertake a new exercise on new forecasts, its
remit is to deliver on the White Paper.
iii) Ann Follin (Edinburgh Airport Ltd) : Comment
Domestic traffic at the airport is growing, just not at
the same high rate as international traffic.
The Master Plan exercise will be delivered within the
given timescale.
Edinburgh Airport Ltd did make a submission to the White
Paper including land requirements and the White Paper
indicatively shows more than requested. The final Master
Plan will refine what is indicated in the White Paper.
Surface Access Links
i.e. road, rail and lightrail are ALL crucial.
There is a need for all modes to go into the airport to
enable it to be a node for growth.
iv) Bill Cantley (Cockburn Association) : The Cockburn
Association have been an advocate for a main rail line link
since 1997 and they are very much in favour of West
Edinburgh being a major centre for Scotland. In their role
as a lobby group they are asking for the boundaries to be
pushed even further, for an S-Bahn type network for
Edinburgh, similar to that in Zurich. These demonstrate
adaptability, they are marketed coherently, they provide
independent tracks separate from longer distance services
and the grand scale of it is accepted. The aim is to create
a Northern European pole therefore there is a need to pull
places into the city rail network, such as Dunbar and
Berwick.
A Scottish Strategic Rail Study was undertaken that
covered central Scotland and some of the areas beyond. This
investigated ideas and a short list of feasible and
economic options was created. Some of the items on the list
are under active consideration: Airdrie / Bathgate line and
Waverley Station redevelopment.
v) Margaret Smith (
MSP) :
- Welcomed the meeting and the expanded stakeholder
group. Margaret noted that she represents people at
Lennymuir and welcomes the removal of blight as soon as
possible.
- Margaret considered the timetable for the framework
to be optimistic, with particular regard to the train
and rail link bills. The Waverley Railway Bill, for
example, is expected to take up to 18 months to get
through parliament so by analogy the framework should
look to the end of 2005 at the earliest.
- How often will the stakeholder group meet and in
what form?
- The surface road links, including the roads, need
to be of a good standard, but there is scepticism over
the transport infrastructure provided by the Royal Bank
of Scotland.
Optimism regarding the timetable is correct. It may be
that group would prefer the Bills to be enacted and
therefore decisions would be taken at the appropriate
time.
The usual process for stakeholder meetings is an initial
introductory meeting, such as today, one in the middle
where a draft document would be discussed and a final
meeting at the end when the process is nearly finished.
Producing this document is though, likely to be a long
process therefore it is intended the group will meet when
sufficient is happening to be discussed.
TW put the idea to the group of a
newsletter / webpage update to be developed to keep
everyone involved and updated.
Comments / ideas are welcome. The next
full meeting will be before the draft is produced (at the
end of 2004 / early 2005) when it is expected there will be
an update on the technical work.
With reference to surface access / road links, if the
forecasts come to fruition it will not matter what
significant mode share is achieved by public transport the
amount of road traffic will still be significantly higher
than today. A distributor road / direct link to the M8 may
be desirable.
In terms of engineering works, the Department for
Transport looked at possible options prior to the White
Paper. Four different conceptual road lines were suggested
by consultants, with questions remaining over the actual
engineering. These routes are now being looked into,
i.e. in terms of safety. But there should be
the desire to get people into good habits
i.e. rail / tram before they get into bad
habits
i.e. cars.
(Ann Follin) Must be careful with the tram and rail
focus. Some in the catchment can only get by road, but road
does not necessarily mean by private car
i.e. high speed bus links. Ann felt strongly
that ALL modes are needed to cater for both passengers and
workers.
vi) Ray McMaster (
TIE / Dundas and Wilson) : Comment to
John Inman (
CEC) The framework will not just have an
impact on the Rural West Edinburgh Local Plan but also on
the Edinburgh City Local Plan.
There is a lot of uncertainties at present and as
CEC approach different stages of the
plan decisions will be made at the time. This is the most
pragmatic approach. There may be some provisional
statements in the draft plan and then further work or
alterations may be incorporated at the inquiry stage.
Neither
CEC nor the Scottish Executive want to
see the framework delay the local plan.
vii) Geoff Duke (
TIE) :
TW had mentioned that the West Edinburgh
Planning Framework would follow on from work on the tram
and rail links. Could
TW elaborate.
The process for the framework would be for the tram and
rail link Bills either to be enacted or to achieve
sufficient early consensus in the Parliamentary process for
the framework to be acceptably firm on their routes and
therefore be able to identify land available at some stage
for development. Ann Follin suggested the framework come
first. However,
TW stressed that the framework could not
pre-empt the Parliamentary process.
viii) Tom Hart (Scottish Association of Public
Transport): raised the issue of through tram running to
Newbridge and suggested the consideration of 2 stations in
the airport area.
Detail on routes was for consideration in the
Parliamentary process.
TW confirmed the modelling exercises
will take into account the impact of different policies,
such as congestion charging. Geoff Duke added that with
regards to the routes, due to the policy in the White Paper
it has not been sensible to draw a line but to state that
the aim is to provide a service to Newbridge with the
details yet to be determined.
ix) Rod Patterson (International Business Gateway
Scotland) : Noted the key to the frameworks success will be
the integration of all transport improvements in the area
and this should be stated explicitly in the framework.
x) Ron Oliver (
PPCA) : Asked what the timetable was for
the heavy rail link and how these would fit into the
development plan process for the Rural West Edinburgh Local
Plan.
Susan Clark from
TIE provided the details on the
timetable and John Inman confirmed that once the alignment
had been decided it would be included in the process at the
appropriate stage, this may take the form of an alteration
during the inquiry.
TW then wound up the meeting, inviting
both any written thoughts or views, and extending an
invitation to parties to seek bilateral meetings via
e-mail, phone or letter.
ANNEX: PRESENTATION ON WEST
EDINBURGH PLANNING FRAMEWORK REVIEW
TOM WILLIAMSON 14 MAY 2004 - STAKEHOLDER
ADVISORY GROUP AND WIDER REFERENCE GROUP - VICTORIA
QUAY
Good afternoon. For those of you who don't know me, I am
Tom Williamson, Assistant Chief Planner in Planning
Division here in the Executive. I managed the work on the
original West Edinburgh Planning Framework and worked with
Department for Transport in the preparation of the Air
Transport White Paper. I am now managing this Review of the
West Edinburgh Planning Framework which is the subject of
my presentation this afternoon. After the presentation I
will throw it open for questions and hopefully for
discussion.
West Edinburgh Planning Framework 2003 - Airport development
- Surface transport
- Consolidate to 2020
- Long term potential
- Exceptions criteria
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The original West Edinburgh Planning Framework was
published in March 2003. In general terms it safeguarded
land for the future expansion of Edinburgh Airport and for
other new surface access transport infrastructure.
Investment in transport is intended to alleviate congestion
for existing development as well as serving airport needs.
Economic development to 2020 is intended to focus on
consolidating the core development areas in the structure
plan including Edinburgh Park and Newbridge. Other land,
currently Green Belt, has long term potential for economic
development where Edinburgh is competing on the national
and international market for corporate headquarters type
buildings. The highest quality of design would be required
for such development. The West Edinburgh Planning Framework
also set out criteria which may justify eventual release of
Green Belt land for economic development. These criteria
would also constitute the threshold which any speculative
proposals submitted by developers in the meantime would
have to start from.
West Edinburgh Planning Framework Review - Air Transport White Paper
- Edinburgh City Region 21
st Century Scenarios
- Social/Economic Impact of European
Airports
- From Airport to Airport City
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There are a number of influences on the Review of the
West Edinburgh Planning Framework. The Air Transport White
Paper, which was published in December 2003, is a key
determinant. A number of those present today were
privileged to attend a Conference at Dynamic Earth on
Tuesday on the Edinburgh City Region in the 21st Century.
Some very relevant things were said there. There are also 2
reports of which I am aware that are relevant. The Airports
Council International published in January this year a
report on the social and economic impact of airports in
Europe, and the book "from Airport to Airport City"
published last year is partly based on research done in
1998 for the European Regions Airports Conference 2000, and
updated in 2002. I will look at each of these influences in
turn.
Air Transport White Paper (1) - Expand facilities to 2020
- Second main runway 2020
- Relocate Royal Highland Centre
2013
- Close crosswind runway
- Release development land
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The
UK White Paper
The Future of Air Transport was published on 16
December 2003. It envisaged growth of Edinburgh Airport
from over 7M passengers per annum currently to over 20M by
2030. This growth can be handled by an expanded terminal
building, additional aircraft stands and taxiways, together
with more intensive use of the crosswind runway for taking
off, up to about 2020. Thereafter, a second close parallel
main runway is likely to be required. The terminal and
stand expansion is likely to require relocation of the
Royal Highland Centre by 2013. After the second main runway
is commissioned, the crosswind runway will be closed to
airborne traffic, and the southern part of it can be
released for development. In addition removal of the height
safeguarding associated with the crosswind runway will
allow higher and more intensive development to take place
at Edinburgh Park where some redevelopment could be
expected in 20 years time. As the White Paper says, the
parties will work together to find a new site for the Royal
Highland Centre and facilitate the relocation.
Air Transport White Paper (2) - Indicative Map
- Broad area for new runway
- Areas for operational uses
- Areas to be given up
- Article 17 Direction Area
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The White Paper includes an indicative map of the area
likely to be required for airport purposes when the airport
has developed to fulfil the White Paper policies. The
location of the new second main runway is broadly
indicated, while areas for other operational uses such as
terminals, aircraft stances, taxiways, maintenance
facilities, are also provided for in a figurative
representation. Also shown are areas to be given up by the
Airport, namely the southern section of the crosswind
runway not required for taxiing purposes. The second map
shows the area of the Article 17 Direction made by Scottish
Ministers on 17 December 2003. The Direction provides that
where City of Edinburgh Council wish to approve any
planning application in that area, they must notify it to
the Scottish Ministers. Scottish Ministers will then either
decide to clear it back to City of Edinburgh Council to
decide as they see fit, or it could be called in for
Ministers' own decision. The reason for this is to
safeguard land that may be required for Airport purposes to
fulfil the White Paper objectives, from other incompatible
development.


Edinburgh City Region 21
st Century Scenarios - Jim Wallace -West Edinburgh Key
- Bill Furness - Scotland's Gateway
- Michael Parkinson
- Cities drivers of national economy
- Airports drive growth
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At the Conference on Tuesday, Jim Wallace, Deputy First
Minister, in his keynote speech spoke of the National
Planning Framework highlighting West Edinburgh as an area
where major change is already occurring and where the
complexity of the issues necessitates co-ordinated action
in the national interest. He referred to West Edinburgh as
gateway to the Capital and the West Edinburgh Planning
Framework as seeking to realise its potential for high
quality economic development. He also referred to financial
services as key to the reputation and future success of
Edinburgh. Bill Furness, in his capacity on Tuesday as
Chair of the Edinburgh and Lothian Local Economic Forum,
referred to West Edinburgh and the area round the Airport
as Scotland's Gateway with all that that implies about
first impressions of a country and its attractiveness to
business and tourism. And Professor Michael Parkinson, of
the European Institute for Urban Affairs at Liverpool John
Moores University, argued on the basis of studies he has
done that cities are drivers of the national economy, and
that airports drive growth for their city regions.
Social / Economic Impact of European
Airports - Fundamental national economic
motors
- Multi-modal interchange nodes
- New development poles
- Financial / business services
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This report, from January this year, also argues that
airports are fundamentally significant national economic
motors. They bring wide benefits to regional business
interests and to consumers and provide essential
infrastructure to support regional social and economic
growth. The catalytic effect of an airport enhances
business efficiency and productivity by providing easy
access to suppliers and customers. In a global market,
airports give key accessibility advantages. Airports
increasingly develop as multi-modal transport interchanges
creating strategic advantage and potentially enabling them
to grow into new development poles. The report also states
that it is often the financial and business services
sectors which make the greatest use of air transport and
for whom accessibility to air services will have the
strongest influence on location decisions. Our own Royal
Bank of Scotland demonstrates the point in Edinburgh.
From Airport to Airport City - European study 2001
- Sustainability challenge
- Harness positive, minimise
negative
- Integrated in regional framework
- Growth of airport city
- Landside interchange node
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This work was partly done prior to the European Airport
Regions Conference in 2000 and subsequently developed. It
rightly highlights the challenge that airport development
poses for achieving the right balance between the economic,
social and environmental aims that sustainability demands.
The specific challenge facing airports is to harness the
positive developmental features and minimise the harmful
and wasteful impacts. There is no one model for how this
can be done, but airports must be integrated into a
coherent spatial development framework involving a complex
number and variety of actors, institutional and otherwise,
who have to be brought together in a constructive spirit.
The most important lesson demonstrated in the report is the
need to have a comprehensive regional framework for land
use and transport planning which fully integrates airports
and their development. This report also highlights the
trend for airports to grow into development nodes, or
airport cities, supported by surface access transport
interchanges. What I have attempted to do in highlighting
these various influences is to set a context that has
resonance for our West Edinburgh Planning Framework
Review.
Organisation - Working Group (Scottish Executive,
SEEL,
CEC,
WLC)
- Partners (
EAL,
RHASS, tie)
- Stakeholder Advisory Group
- Wider Reference Group
- Bilateral Meetings
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So now I will turn to the Review itself. The work is
organised through a Working Group of Edinburgh and West
Lothian Councils with Scottish Enterprise Edinburgh and
Lothian and the Scottish Executive. Edinburgh Airport
Limited, the Royal Highland Centre and Transport
Initiatives Edinburgh will be close working partners, and
there will then be a stakeholder advisory group of those
organisations with a strategic interest in the area
including representation from the local community, and a
wider reference group of local interests and land and
property interests. As before bilateral meetings will be
offered to any who wish it, and a number of useful meetings
have been held and others are arranged.
RHASS Site Search - RHASS parameters
- Scottish Executive,
SEEL,
CEC,
WLC
- Edinburgh / West Lothian
- Site Search and Assessment
- WEPF Review to
facilitate
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The Royal Highland Centre, without prejudice to their
position of not having agreed to any move, have agreed to
set out the parameters of their existing and future
business needs to assist in the site search. The Scottish
Executive,
SEEL, City of Edinburgh Council and West
Lothian Council will form the working group with the Royal
Highland Centre. The site search will be confined to
Edinburgh and West Lothian to meet locational criteria set
by the Royal Highland Centre. It will clearly be necessary
to identify sites meeting the locational and development
criteria and to assess the costs of relocation. The core
work on the West Edinburgh Planning Framework Review will
seek to investigate the extent to which creating
development value in West Edinburgh may assist in financing
relocation.
Airport Master Plan - White Paper requirement by 12/04
- Definition of indicative map
- Land dispositions refined
- Lennymuir area not required
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The White Paper requires each Airport to prepare a
Master Plan within 12 months. The Master Plan at Edinburgh
should define actual boundaries of land requirements, and
the purpose for which the land is required that will
supersede the indicative map in the White Paper. I believe
that Edinburgh Airport Limited have made progress on their
Master Plan and I would expect that the land use
requirements would be a refinement of what has been shown
indicatively in the White Paper rather than any radically
different disposition. They have stated publicly that they
will not need to acquire the former MoD housing at
Lennymuir.
Surface Transport - Tram Bill before Parliament
- Rail defined for Bill late 2004
- White Paper M8 link
- EAL A8 link
proposal
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The Bill for Tram Line 2 is now before Parliament with
indicative route lines and limits of deviation defined on
maps. The Airport Rail link is also defined but is subject
to more detailed feasibility work before reaching the level
of definition that will allow a Bill to be placed before
Parliament late this year or early 2005. The White Paper
refers to the need for a link from the airport to the M8
and DfT have had preliminary work on routes done by their
consultants. This work requires more detailed feasibility
to the satisfaction of Scottish Executive road engineers,
and the policy position remains that Scottish Executive
would not want it to open before the rail and tram links.
Edinburgh Airport Limited propose to lodge a planning
application for a road link from the Hilton Hotel
roundabout eastwards to connect into the north side of the
Gogar Roundabout. This may conflict with the Tram Bill's
proposals to site a tram depot on land north of the Gogar
Roundabout, and City of Edinburgh Council are likely to
treat the planning application as premature. Such a link
was however shown indicatively in the published West
Edinburgh Planning Framework. It would give some relief and
comfort to the Airport that they could maintain relatively
efficient access from the City once the Royal Bank
HQ opens, with its access to the A8. I
understand that Transport Initiatives Edinburgh are trying
to focus as much of the transport infrastructure in a
single corridor as feasible to minimise land take and avoid
severance of potential development land.
Timetable - Originally draft by early 2005
- To be finalised during 2005
- Airport Master Plan
- Tram Bill and Rail Link Bill
- In practice dictated by
consultancies
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In practice dictated by consultanciesThe brief talks of
a consultation draft by early 2005, and final publication
later that year. There are a number of steps along the way
which are not under our control which may affect the
timing. The Airport Master Plan is one but I think that
will fit that timetable. The Tram Bill is currently before
Parliament, with the Rail Link Bill to follow around the
end of the year. Until we have a degree of clarity on both
of those, and importantly how they mesh together and with
any additional road links, we cannot reasonably prepare a
draft West Edinburgh Planning Framework Review. In any
event it is likely that the process of procuring
consultancy on land use and transport modelling in
particular and then working through the process of defining
tests on the model and interpreting results will take us
longer than we at first thought. The timetable in the brief
should therefore be taken as indicative and we will keep
you regularly in touch with progress.
Next Steps - Procure consultancies
- Continue bilateral meetings
- Await Airport Master Plan
- Liaise on tram and rail
- Keep this group in touch
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So where do we go from here? The immediate tasks for us
are to procure consultancies in land use transport
modelling and for the Royal Highland Centre site search. We
will obviously continue to hold bilateral meetings and I am
happy to entertain requests from any interested parties.
The Airport Master Plan will take us forward a step in
helping to define land requirements, and to identify which
parts of the Royal Highland Centre landholding will not be
required for the airport and are therefore available for
redevelopment. The tram and rail proposals will continue to
firm up and help define the land use dispositions that are
potentially available for future development. And as I have
said we will keep both the Stakeholder Advisory Group and
the Wider Reference Group, both of whom are here today, in
touch as we progress.