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CONTENTS
Introduction
Summary of Responses
Supporting the Scottish Police Service - the National
Delivery of Services
Knife crime
Football Banning Orders
Marches and Parades
Mandatory drug testing and assessment
Police power to take fingerprints at a place other than
a police station
Date and place of birth
Independent Police Complaints Body
Incentives for providing information or evidence for
use against others
List of Respondents
INTRODUCTION
Acknowledgements
The Scottish Executive would like to thank all those who
responded to the proposals set out in the consultation
paper
Supporting Police, Protecting Communities: Proposals
for legislation. The responses to this consultation
will contribute to the Executive's further development of
policy and preparation of a Police Bill.
Responses to the consultation
In February 2005 the Scottish Executive Justice
Department published the consultation paper
Supporting Police, Protecting Communities which
set out a number of proposals to enhance police
effectiveness and promote community safety. The
consultation document was published on the Internet (
www.scotland.gov.uk/consultations/justice/sppcpl-00.asp)
and in addition, 409 individual copies were sent out. The
purpose of the consultation was to obtain views on a range
of proposals on the following themes:
Supporting the Scottish Police Service - the national
delivery of services
Knife Crime
Football Banning Orders
Marches and Parades
Mandatory drug testing and assessment
Police power to take fingerprints at a place other
than a police station
Date and place of birth
Independent Police Complaints Body
Incentives for providing information or evidence for
use against others
67 responses were received to the consultation. 14 were
from private individuals and 53 from organisations,
including 12 local authorities, 11 football or football
supporters' organisations, and 8 police or police authority
organisations. 18 of the responses commented all the
proposals covered in the consultation, 48 responded to one
or some of the proposals, and 1 did not respond to any of
the topics but made other comments about the Police
Bill.
Except where confidentiality has been requested, the
individual responses are available to the public in the
Scottish Executive Library, K-spur Saughton House,
Broomhouse Drive, Edinburgh EH11 3XD, tel 0131-244-4556, or
at:
www.scotland.gov.uk/consultations/policebill/responses
The purpose of this report
This report provides a summary and analysis of the
written responses received by the Scottish Executive on the
proposals set out in the consultation paper. The aim of
this report is to provide a numerical summary of the
responses received to each question and to identify,
without attributing them to individual respondents, some of
the main issues raised. Readers who are not familiar with
the consultation document may wish to refer to it to see
details of the proposals, for those questions which are not
self-explanatory.
SUMMARY OF RESPONSES
Supporting the Scottish Police Service -
The National Delivery of Services
Question 1: Do you agree that a Service
Authority should be created to maintain the Scottish
Drug Enforcement Agency (
SDEA)
and provide the other common police services?
- 28 responses were received to this question; 27
agreed, 1 disagreed
- Not all respondents agreed with the distinction
between maintained and provided services. 2 commented
that
SDEA
should not be maintained, but should come into the
direct governance regime of the Authority on the
grounds that this would allow the authority to hire,
discipline or dispense with the services of a director.
However, they acknowledged that operationally the
SDEA
should retain independence from the authority.
- 4 respondents commented that the structure of the
Service Authority should reflect that of existing Joint
Police Boards and Police Authorities.
Question 2: Do you agree with the proposed
division of responsibilities between the Director of
the
SDEA,
the Service Authority and the Scottish
Ministers?
- 25 responses were received to this question; 16
agreed, 6 disagreed and 3 commented without
demonstrating a clear view.
- A number of respondents felt that Ministers should
not set strategic priorities.
- 1 commented that they felt it important that the
Service Authority 'properly governed' the
SDEA.
This would include the mandating of the Service
Authority to oversee and scrutinise the risks apparent
in the Agency and review the processes used to identify
and mitigate them.
Question 3: Do you agree that, in certain
circumstances, it is appropriate that the
SDEA
should be able to recruit officers directly?
- 25 responses were received to this question; 14
agreed, 10 disagreed and 1 commented without
demonstrating a clear view.
- Several of those who disagreed accepted that there
may be special circumstances where this may be
necessary in order to avoid a specific crisis. However,
overall, they felt the need for police constables to
have a wide training, in line with current probationer
arrangements, necessitated a recruitment process akin
to that used by police forces.
Question 4: Have we identified all the initial
functions to be provided by the new Service
Authority?
- 20 responses were received to this question; 18
agreed, 2 disagreed.
- 1 suggested that the new authority should be tasked
with introducing a new standard reporting and recording
system for crime across all 8 police authorities.
- Another suggested that Identification Bureaux, Air
Support, Marine Support, Computer Crime, Football
Hooliganism, traffic policing and camera enforcement
could all also be considered for central
provision.
Question 5: Do you agree with the proposed
division of responsibilities between the Service
Authority and the Scottish Ministers for the provided
common police services?
- 24 responses were received to this question; 17
agreed, 7 disagreed.
- There was concern from several respondents at the
role of Ministers setting strategic direction. However,
1 of these respondents accepted that this may simply be
a question of language and underlined the importance of
clarity of language.
- Another commented that the Service Authority should
have responsibility for, and ensure effective delivery
of, all the provided common police services, including
the
SDEA.
Question 6: Do you agree that there should be a
senior strategic director for the provided common
police services?
- 25 responses were received to this question; 20
agreed, 5 disagreed.
- 3 advised that the Directors Forum (
i.e. the forum of directors
of the individual common police services) should be
able to secure policy co-ordination and to act as a
driver for continuous improvement.
- A number of respondents who supported the proposal
felt that there should be minimal scope for Ministerial
influence over the postholder.
- 1 respondent commented that the strategic director
should have no line management responsibility in
respect of the management or functions of the
SDEA.
- 1 respondent stated that they see it as essential
that a senior strategic director is appointed and also
suggested that a professionally qualified financial
officer should be appointed to ensure systems are in
place to ensure effective accountability and
transparency for public money.
Question 7: Do you agree that the Service
Authority Board should comprise representatives from
ACPOS, Police Conveners and lay members, and
do you have any views on the proposed composition of
the Board?
- 26 responses were received to this question; 18
agreed, 8 disagreed.
- In general respondents agreed the proposed format
of the board, although there was opposition to the
proposal for there to be a lay chair and lay membership
of the board. 1 commented that lay members would not
have sufficient experience and that the chair of the
board should be a convenor of a police authority.
Question 8: Do you agree that the legislation
should include an enabling provision to allow functions
to be added or removed?
- 27 responses were received to this question; 25
agreed, 2 disagreed.
- Of the 2 who disagreed, 1 thought there is already
provision within S 59 of the Police and Magistrate
Courts Act 1994. The other considered this to be a
politicisation of the police and advised that decisions
on changes to operational matters should be taken where
knowledge, expertise and experience exist.
Question 9: Do you agree that the
SDEA's
budget should be simplified, provided on a 50:50 basis
by central and local government and that Ministers
should be able to direct additional funding if
necessary?
- 23 responses were received to this question; 20
agreed, 2 disagreed and 1 commented without
demonstrating a clear view.
- 1 respondent was concerned that this method could
put additional pressures on local authorities if
SDEA
costs were to rise at greater than the rate of
inflation, with implications for the other services
provided by
LAs.
- Another respondent considered that the proposal to
top-slice force budgets to fund the centralised service
would diminish the ability of Chief Constables to spend
their budgets to meet local needs.
Question 10: Do you agree that the Scottish
Ministers should directly provide the whole of the
funding for the provided common police
services?
- 23 responses were received to this question; 14
agreed, 9 disagreed.
- Several of the opposing responses proposed that the
provided services should be funded in the same manner
as that proposed for the
SDEA
on the grounds that this would encourage a shareholder
philosophy rather than a stakeholder one and would
promote an awareness of local politics form the
perspective of the Convenor members of the board.
Question 11: Are there any other comments you
wish to make with respect to our proposals to create a
single Service Authority which maintains the
SDEA
and provides common police services where police powers
are not exercised?
- 11 positive responses were received to this
question. Several of these questioned the proposals for
a lay chair and lay membership of the board.
Knife crime
Question 12: Do you agree with the proposal to double
the maximum penalty for carrying a knife (or other articles
with a blade or point)?
- 33 responses were received to this question; 23
agreed, 4 agreed in part, 3 disagreed and 3 commented
without demonstrating a clear view.
- There was broad support for aligning the penalties
for carrying a knife in public with those for carrying
of an offensive weapon.
- Those objecting suggested that increased penalties
were not needed; some querying whether the current
maximum was fully used by the courts.
Question 13: Do you agree with the proposal to
give the police the power to arrest a person whom they
reasonably suspect has committed or is committing an
offence of carrying a knife (or other articles with a
blade or point) or an offensive weapon?
- 34 responses were received to this question; 22
agreed, 4 agreed in part, 5 disagreed and 3 commented
without demonstrating a clear view.
- There was general agreement from those supporting
this proposal that it would support the message that
knife crime will not be tolerated.
- Those objecting were mainly concerned that this
would lead to innocent individuals being arrested
simply for carrying a knife.
Question 14: Do you agree with the proposal to
increase the minimum purchase age for knives (and other
bladed and pointed objects) to 18?
- 32 responses were received to this question; 23
agreed, 4 agreed in part, 3 disagreed and 2 commented
without demonstrating a clear view.
- There was broad support for aligning the purchase
age for knives with that for alcohol and
fireworks.
- Those objecting were concerned about stigmatising
young people and the impact on those living in their
own households.
Football Banning Orders
Question 15: Do you agree that football banning orders…
are an appropriate and effective response to the problem of
football-related violence and disorder?
- 32 responses were received to this question; 26
agreed, 3 agreed in part, 2 disagreed and 1 commented
without demonstrating a clear view.
- 1 respondent saw merit in the proposals as part of
a tailored approach to sentencing and a way of
addressing the cause of offending behaviour.
- 1 respondent thought that extending the bans to
certain public houses or town centres was particularly
useful.
- 1 respondent felt that the proposals would be
extremely meaningful to the police, helpful to football
clubs and reassuring to the public.
- 3 respondents suggested extending the ban to
include an area around the ground (perhaps a 2 mile
radius) before and after kick off.
- Of the 2 who opposed the proposal, 1 did not agree
that the problem of football violence was as
substantial in Scotland as in England and felt that the
case for banning orders had not been made. The other
argued that banning orders are resource heavy, rely
heavily on first rate intelligence and would work best
if a Scottish Football Intelligence Unit was
established alongside them.
- 5 respondents noted that the proposals would need
to be sufficiently resourced in order to be
effective.
Question 16: Do you agree that courts should be
able to impose banning orders on conviction for a
football-related offence and on summary application by
a Chief Constable?
- 33 responses were received to this question; 25
agreed, 7 agreed in part and 1 disagreed.
- There were some concerns over the imposing of
banning orders on summary application, with 1
respondent opposing this, 1 suggesting that there
should be a presumption against imposing orders in this
way and 1 suggesting that they may only be appropriate
for cases of violent conduct.
Question 17: Do you agree that the courts
should be able to make a banning order if they are
satisfied that it would help reduce football-related
disorder, specifically the stirring up of hatred
against others or threatening, abusive or insulting
behaviour at or in connection with a football
match?
- 33 responses were received to this question; 25
agreed, 4 agreed in part, 2 disagreed and 2 commented
without demonstrating a clear view.
- 3 respondents noted that this would build on work
already being done by football clubs.
- 1 respondent thought the orders should apply in
particular to those who commit offences aggravated by
religious hatred.
- 1 respondent thought this would be difficult to
prove.
- 1 respondent thought that orders should apply
equally to everyone who act in this way (or not be
applied at all) and that resources should not limit the
application of the orders.
- 2 respondents noted that fans often act in the heat
of the moment and felt there should not be an
overreaction in enforcement. Another agreed that orders
should not be made against everyone who acts in this
way at matches due to "the potential strain on
resources and the perception of over use of
authority".
- 1 respondent agreed that a demonstration of a
pattern of behaviour over time should be enough for an
order to be granted on these grounds.
Question 18: Do you agree with the proposed
length of a banning order and the proposed penalty for
breach of a banning order?
- 30 responses were received to this question; 22
agreed, 4 agreed in part and 4 disagreed.
- 1 respondent felt that the proposals should prove
an excellent deterrent.
- 2 respondents thought the maximum lengths of
banning orders was too long and should be 1 year, 3
years and 5 years respectively. Another thought that 1
year should be the maximum for banning orders imposed
on summary application.
- 1 respondent suggested a life ban for the most
serious offences.
- 2 respondents felt that provisional bans should be
put in place for those who were arrested for
football-related offences and were awaiting trial.
Question 19: Do you agree that banning orders
should apply to all competitive and friendly games
involving the Scottish national team and
SPL
and
SFL
clubs? If not, which games do you think they should
apply to?
- 30 responses were received to this question; 24
agreed, 4 agreed in part and 2 disagreed.
- 2 respondents suggesting limiting the extent of the
orders further than was proposed (one suggested
"high-risk games" only and one suggested Premier League
and national team games only).
- 3 respondents suggested including junior league
games and one also suggested amateur games.
- 1 respondent suggested "any football-related event"
and 1 suggested that the orders should cover any
sporting event.
Question 20: Do you agree that the Scottish
Police should take on the administration of the banning
orders?
- 30 responses were received to this question; 23
agreed, 3 agreed in part, 3 disagreed and 1 commented
without demonstrating a clear view.
- 1 respondent noted that it "is not envisaged that
the administration of Football Banning Orders will be
an unwieldy administrative burden on the Scottish
Police Service."
- 4 respondents suggested giving the clubs and/or
football associations a role in the
enforcement/administration of the banning orders.
- 2 respondents suggested establishing a national
agency to handle the administration, possibly as part
of the proposed new common services organisation.
Other
- 1 respondent also suggested creating a new offence
of racialist or indecent chanting at a football
match.
Marches and Parades
Question 21: Do you agree that organisers should be
required to give local authorities and the police 28 days
notice of their intention to hold a procession?
- 24 responses were received to this question; 21
agreed, 3 disagreed.
- Of those who disagreed, 2 felt that an even longer
notice period should be given (6 weeks and 3 months
respectively).
Question 22: Do you agree that the 28 days
notice period should be dispensed with in limited
circumstances?
- 25 responses were received to this question; 24
agreed, 1 disagreed.
- Of those who agreed, 9 qualified their view by
stating that:
- The period of notice should be
dispensed with only in exceptional circumstances (5
respondents).
- There should be clear definitions
for the circumstances in which the notice can be
dispensed with .
- Circumstances for dispensing with
the notice period should be at the discretion of
individual local authorities (2 respondents).
- 1 disagreed stating that no case had been made of
abuse of the current system so why change it.
Question 23: Do you agree that organisers of
all marches and parades should give notice of their
intention to local authorities and the police?
- 24 responses were received to this question; 19
agreed, 1 agreed in part, and 4 disagreed.
- Of those who agreed, 6 qualified their view by
stating that:
- Consideration needed to be given to
ways of relieving undue bureaucratic burden on march
organisers (5 respondents).
- Additional funding will be required
to implement this recommendation .
- One respondent suggested that notice should always
be given to the police but not always to local
authorities - for example if it is an organisation like
the Scouts or Boy's Brigade.
- The reasons for disagreement included:
- The process will not provide value
for money .
- There was no case for imposing this
condition .
- The condition was too burdensome
.
- Local authorities need flexibility -
the condition is too rigid.
Question 24: Do you agree there should be
regulations setting out the key steps and timetable for
taking decisions on notifications?
- 23 responses were received to this question; 18
agreed, 5 disagreed.
- Of those who agreed, 5 qualified their view by
stating that:
- The regulations should not be overly
burdensome (3 respondents).
- The regulations should only apply to
troublesome marches .
- The decisions should include
consideration of the previous behaviour of march
organisers and participants .
- The reasons for disagreement included:
- The regulations were too burdensome
(3 respondents).
- The resource implications were
significant (3 respondents).
- National guidelines would be more
appropriate .
Question 25: Do you agree that local
authorities should be able to take into account wider
views, including community views, when taking decisions
on procession notifications and that they should put in
place transparent procedures as to how those views will
be considered?
- 25 responses were received to this question; 22
agreed, 2 disagreed, and 1 commented without
demonstrating a clear view.
- Of those who agreed, 7 qualified their view by
stating that:
- Local authorities should have a free
hand to decide what views are taken into account (3
respondents).
- Equal opportunities are paramount -
for example the majority view does not always outweigh
the minority interests .
- Clarification and guidance on what
is meant by "community views" would be helpful (2
respondents).
- Method for view to be given on a
confidential basis required to avoid intimidation or
reprisals .
- Those who disagreed felt that:
- Its unclear how community views will
be assessed .
- The cost implications are
significant .
- It's impossible to overturn a
decision to allow a march simply on the grounds of
public opinion.
- 1 respondent did not give a clear view whether they
were for or against the proposal, but raised issues
about the cost of publicising the notifications and the
number of frivolous objections they may receive. They
proposed that the grounds for objections are restricted
to those suggested in the report of the Review.
Question 26: Do you agree that local
authorities should be able to take into account wider
issues when taking decisions on procession
notifications?
- 23 responses were received to this question; 22
agreed, 1 disagreed.
- Of those who agreed, 5 qualified their view by
stating that:
- "Wider issues" must relate directly
to the application .
- Wider issues should include impact
on local businesses and public transport .
- Wider issues should include the risk
of sectarian abuse and intimidation .
- Wider issues must be compatible with
Human rights .
- The burden of responsibility for
contentious decisions should lie solely with the local
authorities .
Question 27: Do you agree that local
authorities should be able to impose wider conditions
on procession notifications?
- 23 responses were received to this question; 22
agreed, 1 disagreed.
- Of those who agreed, 6 qualified their view by
stating that:
- National/statutory guidelines should
be given on what those conditions should be (2
respondents).
- "Wider conditions" should not be
unduly onerous .
- Respect for human rights must be
considered .
- The conditions should include a ban
on the consumption of alcohol .
- The conditions should include a ban
on all forms of sectarian singing, music, chanting,
symbols, flags and clothing .
- The conditions should require
organisers to take out insurance and good behaviour
bonds .
Question 28: Do you agree that there should be
a code of conduct prepared by the police and local
authorities?
- 22 responses were received to this question; 20
agreed, 2 disagreed.
- Of those who agreed, 4 qualified their comment by
stating that:
- There should be flexibility in the
Code of Conduct (2 respondents).
- The Scottish Police Service and
COSLA
should prepare the Code of Conduct .
- A standard Scotland-wide code should
be prepared and individual police authorities and local
authorities should add local conditions to reflect
local circumstances.
Question 29: Do you agree that organisers and
participants in breach of the new statutory
requirements remain subject to the same penalties as
currently?
- 21 responses were received to this question; 20
agreed, 1 disagreed.
- More detailed suggestions included:
- Penalties should be extended to the
parent organisation of the march body .
- Penalties should be extended to
march participants.
- Penalties should be reviewed as we
learn more about marches and march organisers .
- A breach of religious or racial
prejudice should be more heavily punished .
- Penalties should include a ban on
participating in a march or parade for a fixed period
.
- 1 respondent disagreed, preferring that the current
penalties should be doubled.
Mandatory drug testing and assessment
Question 30: Do you agree that police should have powers
to require persons arrested for certain trigger offences to
undergo a drug test?
- 29 responses were received to this question; 15
agreed, 12 disagreed, and 2 commented without
demonstrating a clear view.
- Of those who disagreed, most had concerns relating
to practical issues such as whether or not there would
be sufficient treatment facilities to support the
policy; whether or not the coercive element might
undermine engagement in voluntary treatment; and
whether or not the policy may force into treatment
non-dependent drug misusers.
- 1 respondent suggested that the policy is more
appropriately a matter for the Courts, suggesting a
positive drug test could lead to assessment as a
condition of bail.
Question 31: Do you agree that drug testing
should be applied to those arrested for certain
offences rather than on charge?
- 21 responses were received to this question; 14
agreed, 7 disagreed.
- Only a few respondents provided any comments. One
(who agreed) stated that a positive drugs test should
not lead to a further charge under the Misuse of Drugs
Act. Another response questioned sanctions for
non-compliance with the test and also stated the need
for those administering the test (police officers) to
be suitably trained and knowledgeable.
Question 32: Do you agree that powers should be
taken to enable the police to require those who test
positive for a class A drug to attend an assessment of
their drugs use?
- 21 responses were received to this question; 10
agreed, 10 disagreed, and 1 commented without
demonstrating a clear view.
- Of those that disagreed the majority did so on
principle -
i.e. that such a function
should be delivered in a different way (through bail or
the
PF
service) or because they questioned coercion into
treatment. However 3 of these respondents seemed to be
on the basis of a lack of clarity about, for example,
possible sanctions for non-compliance or
ECHR
concerns - issues that would be clarified prior to
implementation.
- Many - including those who supported the proposal -
raised concerns about resources.
Question 33: Do you agree that theft and drugs
offences should be the main trigger offences for
testing? Should any other offences be
included?
- 20 responses were received to this question; 13
agreed, 7 disagreed.
- A majority of respondents agreed that theft and
drugs offences should be the main trigger offences.
However, 9 of those who supported the suggested trigger
offences, and 3 of those who said they opposed them,
also said they would be in favour of a wider range of
trigger offences or even a general power for mandatory
testing following arrest for any offence.
- Specific suggestions for additional trigger
offences included crimes of violence, breach of peace
offences and soliciting/prostitution.
- A number of qualifications were provided, the main
one being that it would not be appropriate to include
all theft offences as many do not commonly have a drug
related aspect. Theft is also a high volume offence and
this may have implications for the police -
particularly if a proportion were being tested
unnecessarily. A number of respondents suggest
specifying further those theft offences which should be
included (for example, theft by housebreaking, theft by
shoplifting etc).
Question 34: Do you agree that there should be
a power for a senior police officer to authorise a drug
test where there are reasonable grounds to suspect that
the misuse of a Class A drug has caused or contributed
to a non-trigger offence?
- 20 responses were received to this question; 11
agreed, 9 disagreed.
- Some respondents suggested a need for clear
guidance as to when this would be suitable.
Question 35: Do you agree that the minimum age
at which these proposals take effect should be 16 or
should a lower limit be set?
- 21 responses were received to this question; 10
agreed, 10 disagreed, and 1 further response was not
clear but seemed to agree that individuals under 16
should be dealt with through other services.
- Of those respondents who did not support sixteen as
the minimum age limit, the most common suggestion (made
by 6 respondents) was that there should be no minimum
age limit or that it should be the minimum legal age (
i.e. 8). Only 1 respondent
suggested a minimum age limit (18) higher than that in
the consultation.
Question 36: Do you agree that mandatory drug
testing will provide access to a key group of clients
that might not otherwise engage successfully in
treatment services?
- 23 responses were received to this question; 12
agreed, 8 disagreed, and 3 commented without
demonstrating a clear view.
- Several responses, both in agreement with the
policy and opposed to it, commented on the resources
required to put this policy into practice.
Police power to take fingerprints at a place other than
a police station
Question 37: Do you agree that the police be given the
power to take fingerprints outside of a police station in
order to confirm a person's identity?
- 24 responses were received to this question; 21
agreed, 3 disagreed.
- A number of supportive responses emphasised the
importance of the safeguards proposed in the
consultation paper.
- Those who disagreed felt that there was a risk that
civil liberties might be infringed.
Question 38: Do you agree that officers should
also be able to conduct on-the-spot checks, other than
for identity verification, in specified
circumstances?
- 24 responses were received to this question; 15
agreed, 9 disagreed.
- Some of those who disagreed felt there was a risk
that the power could be misused, and in particular that
it could be used disproportionately to target
particular population groups.
Date and place of birth
Question 39: Do you agree that the police should be
given a power to ask for date of birth and place of birth
information from suspects?
- 25 responses were received to this question. In
respect of date of birth, 24 agreed and 1 disagreed.
For place of birth, 22 agreed, 3 disagreed.
- Place of Birth information - 3
responses disagreed with the proposal: 1 of these said
that the information was of no relevance. The other 2
raised questions as to what information was expected,
is it hospital, home address, town, country etc, what
would happen if the answer given may not tie in with
police officer's preconceived belief and where ethnic
issues are involved may be construed as being
racial
- 2 replies asked for further powers in relation to
occupation information, suggesting that the police
should be able to ask a question along the lines
of:-
"Are you involved in any activity, paid or unpaid,
that involves caring for, supervising or training of
children or vulnerable adults?"
Independent Police Complaints Body
Question 40: Do you agree that the proposed
measures … are the most effective ways in which to
raise the profile of the role of the Procurator Fiscal
in investigating criminal complaints made against the
police?
- 27 responses were received to this question; 22
agreed, 4 disagreed, and 1 commented without
demonstrating a clear view.
- Those who disagreed felt that criminal complaints
should instead be handled by a new Independent Police
Complaints Body with a wider range of powers than those
proposed in the consultation document, including its
own investigatory capacity.
Question 41: Are you satisfied that the powers
and duties outlined at paragraph 9.15 will be
sufficient to allow the new body to play an effective
role in ensuring that Scotland has a modern and
transparent police complaints system?
- 27 responses were received to this question; 21
agreed, 5 disagreed, and 1 commented without
demonstrating a clear view.
- Those who disagreed felt that the new body should
have a wider role and wider powers, including a
stand-alone investigatory capacity.
Question 42: If not, what alternative or
additional powers do you think are needed?
Incentives for providing information or evidence for use
against others
Question 43: Do you agree that a statutory system should
be established to seek to increase the number of accused
who plead guilty and provide co-operation against other
accused in return for a reduced sentence?
- 21 responses were received to this question; 14
agreed, 2 agreed in part, 4 disagreed and 1 commented
without demonstrating a clear position.
- 1 respondent felt the laws should be used
vigorously to ensure Scotland was not seen by criminals
as having "lesser laws".
- 1 respondent thought that it was better to
formalise the process and be transparent.
- 2 respondents thought that sufficient additional
powers already existed; 1 of these suggested that the
policy had not been thought through and that it should
be referred to the Scottish Law Commission before being
enacted.
- 1 respondent raised a number of issues about how
the proposals would work in practice and suggested that
if the Scottish Executive is considering formalised
plea bargaining there might then be merit in referring
the topic to the Sentencing Commission for
consideration.
Question 44: Do you agreed with the features of
the system proposed?
- 22 responses were received to this question; 13
agreed, 2 agreed in part. 5 disagreed and 2 commented
without demonstrating a clear position.
- 1 respondent thought that the co-operation may need
to be kept confidential.
- 2 emphasised the need for the system to be
open/transparent.
- 1 was opposed on the grounds that "plea bargaining
is contrary to the cause of justice". Another found it
difficult to envisage any circumstances where a
sentence would be reduced retrospectively and opposed
any dilution of the principle that the Procurator
Fiscal has no interest in sentence.
- 2 respondents thought that sentences should not be
reduced to the extent that they appeared unduly lenient
- justice should be seen to be done.
Question 45: Do you agree that the prosecutor
in Scotland should be able to inform the trial judge in
confidence of unrelated co-operation which an accused
has provided in the past and for the judge to be able
to take that into account in sentencing?
- 20 responses were received to this question; 11
agreed, 3 agreed in part, 5 disagreed and 1 commented
without demonstrating a clear position.
- 1 thought this would be a significant bargaining
tool for prosecutors. Another supported the proposal
but considered that there must be proof/confidence that
the co-operation is valuable.
- 1 questioned why the option of declaring past
co-operation was not also open to the defence.
- Several thought that all circumstances should be
taken into account to ensure that the interests of
victims and the public interest were best served.
- 1 thought that only information relevant to the
circumstances under review should be considered.
Question 46: Do you agree that the prosecutor's
power to offer immunity from prosecution in return for
co-operation should be put on a statutory basis and
that the prosecutor should be able to commence or
recommence proceedings where the degree of co-operation
has not been provided?
- 20 responses were received to this question; 12
agreed, 2 agreed in part, 5 disagreed and 1 commented
without demonstrating a clear position.
- 2 respondents thought that codification of the
existing powers would be useful. Another considered
that a power to recommence proceedings would be
absolutely necessary.
- 1 respondent saw no reason to change existing
procedures. Another saw no reason to put the
arrangements on a statutory footing and opposed the
proposal for the prosecutor to be able to commence or
recommence proceedings.
- 1 respondent supported sentence reduction but not
immunity as those who are guilty of crimes should be
punished. Another believed immunity should only be
offered for minor offences and a third believed no
immunity should be offered for hate crime
offences.
List of Respondents (excluding individuals who
requested that their names be kept confidential)
Organisations
Aberdeenshire Council
Airdrie Utd
FC
Angus Council
Angus Drug and Alcohol Action Team
Arab Trust (Dundee Utd Supporters' Society)
Association of Chief Police Officers in Scotland
Association of Scottish Police Superintendents
#Ayrshire and Arran Alcohol and Drug Action Team
Bell College: Scottish Centre for Police Studies
Capability Scotland
CIPFA
Convention of Scottish Local Authorities (
CoSLA)
#Dumfries and Galloway Police Authority
Dundee City Council
East Ayrshire Council
East Dunbartonshire Council
East Renfrewshire Council
ERIN Hibernian Supporters' Trust
Faculty of Advocates
Football Safety Officers Association (Scotland)
Forensic Institute
International Committee of Museums and Collections of
Arms and Military History
Glasgow City Council
Grampian Joint Police Board
Greenock Morton Supporters' Society
Hibernian
FC
Law Society of Scotland
Lothian Buses
Midlothian Council
North Lanarkshire Council
Northgate Information Solutions
Nil by Mouth
#Rangers
FC
#Rangers Supporters' Assembly
#Renfrewshire Council
Scottish Children's Reporter Administration
Scottish Drug Enforcement Agency
Scottish Drugs Forum
Scottish Football Association
Scottish Football League
Scottish Legal Aid Board
Scottish Police Authorities Conveners Forum
Scottish Police Federation
Scottish Premier League
Scottish Retail Consortium
South Ayrshire Anti-Social Behaviour Team
South Lanarkshire Council
Stirling Area Substance Forum
Strathclyde Joint Police Board
UNISON Scotland
Victim Support Scotland
West Lothian Council
# - response not to be made public
Individuals
George Allan
Johann Bryant
John Campbell
Keith Cowan
MBE
Stephen Coppinger
Rob Miller
Colin MacDonald
Allan McLeod
Denis W. Reid
Donald Thomson
Plus four others
Scottish Executive Justice Department
June 2005